I just can't get over it when I see him in his little loin cloth all emaciated and sexy.
Thoughts?Is it a sin to have impure thoughts about Jesus being nailed up on the cross?
He wasn't wearing a loin cloth when he was nailed to the cross he was naked. The Romans stripped people naked when they crucified them and all indications are he had a big circumcised erection poking straight up.Is it a sin to have impure thoughts about Jesus being nailed up on the cross?
Jesus walks into an inn with three nails in his hand, and says to the innkeeper, ';Hey, can you put me up for the night?';
Does it matter...he died for all your sins
It's not a sin but it's not healthy either. I'd do a little soul searching if I were you.
Yes, I think so. I can't understand anyone feeling anything but heartbreak seeing an innocent man die for the sins of people like you.
YOU need true repentence from ALL impure thoughts !!!
Repent, confess, and forsake sin !!!
No, but this probably means you like the whole pain thing. And that's cool. I know loads of people who really enjoy that. Or you are just joking and are cracking yourself up. Then that just makes you a big loser.
Not if you're a girl wanting to engage in some good Christian missionary style luvvin'. If you're a man, that's just sick sinning, dude!
Just like Kristen T above, I, too...will party for your soul.
Is The Passion of The Christ under your mattress?
im not sure that its a sin but in a way u should rejoice. first God told Jesus he had to die on the cross. Jesus is the only way to Heaven and to be our link he had to defeat death and to do that he had to die and rise again. Jesus knew he was going to die and u were on his mind as he was dying along with every one else on earth. why would he not have called the angels down to save him if he had no reason to die.
about him being ';sexy'; on the cross thats closer to a sin and its kind of gross to. i mean seriously how do u find being nailed to a cross beaten to the verge of death and feeling unbearable pain sexy?????
Yes, sinful do not entertain these thoughts. Not only sin of lust but, blasphemy.
Dude, you just like autographed your seat in Hell.
Smart move.
Jesus WAS very sexy.
If I weren't such a sad sinning hermit man I could be sexy just like him! Jesus help me I'm getting sadder!
Get help, my twisted enchilada.........
Well I don't believe in sin, but you need to talk to someone professional.
yes it is a sin one ine the worst thing i have evr heard in my life i are sick in the head i will pary for u
Monday, May 10, 2010
Since Firstfruits & Passover were OT rituals, doesn't that mean Sunday was ';nailed to the cross'; in the N.T.?
And being atypical, and fulfilled, then Sunday will never be kept sacred throughtout the endless days of eternity:
Isaiah 66:22 For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain.
66:23 And it shall come to pass, [that] from one new moon to another, and from one SABBATH to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD.Since Firstfruits %26amp; Passover were OT rituals, doesn't that mean Sunday was ';nailed to the cross'; in the N.T.?
All 10 commandments should be followed. When we pick and choose then our critics have lots more ammunition.
I would imagine that the typical Christian would want the 10 commandments put back into our schools, not the 9 commandments.Since Firstfruits %26amp; Passover were OT rituals, doesn't that mean Sunday was ';nailed to the cross'; in the N.T.?
Two things;
1. The ';one sabbath to another'; is an expression to denote from week to week, even as from one new moon to another denotes from month to month. It is not saying all flesh will come before God only on sabbaths.
2. The ten commandments call for the observance of a weekly sabbath as a type of rest God entered into on that seventh day of creation. It is not a matter of entering into God's rest as shown in Hebrews chapter 4.
different calendar then, so no.
Isaiah 66:22 For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain.
66:23 And it shall come to pass, [that] from one new moon to another, and from one SABBATH to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD.Since Firstfruits %26amp; Passover were OT rituals, doesn't that mean Sunday was ';nailed to the cross'; in the N.T.?
All 10 commandments should be followed. When we pick and choose then our critics have lots more ammunition.
I would imagine that the typical Christian would want the 10 commandments put back into our schools, not the 9 commandments.Since Firstfruits %26amp; Passover were OT rituals, doesn't that mean Sunday was ';nailed to the cross'; in the N.T.?
Two things;
1. The ';one sabbath to another'; is an expression to denote from week to week, even as from one new moon to another denotes from month to month. It is not saying all flesh will come before God only on sabbaths.
2. The ten commandments call for the observance of a weekly sabbath as a type of rest God entered into on that seventh day of creation. It is not a matter of entering into God's rest as shown in Hebrews chapter 4.
different calendar then, so no.
Is the athiesm faker than a blue eyed blond hair man nailed to a cross ?
Everyone historian knows the original Jews were black. Everyone knows these Jews now a days are in the same halagroup as whites.
I think the bible has some truth in it bit, over the years it was tampered with and people were hidden from the truth. The truth is Jesus was a black jew.Is the athiesm faker than a blue eyed blond hair man nailed to a cross ?
Wow, all your questions are just astoundingly absurd, and are racist as well. All the statements you keep making in your questions are utterly false. You're only 14, you don't know much.Is the athiesm faker than a blue eyed blond hair man nailed to a cross ?
Everything you have tried to assert as true is completely baseless. We know the halagroups for Semite races as well as those for other races and they do not support your ';allegations';.
The truth is that the Bible is a fanciful myth and black or white does not enter into that myth.
Even if I accept that Jesus was black, what of it?
If he was divine, then it wouldn't matter.
If he was but a man, then it wouldn't matter.
If he never existed, then it wouldn't matter.
if you believe the bible. it says the ha adam was a ruddy man or a man that shows blood in his face [blush] that describes me when I drink to much.
I don't see what race has to do with it.
I don't see what difference it makes if he was black, white or purple.
The question is - did he exist??
Who cares god is just as real as the magical leprechauns in my underwear drawer.
let me guess, your mommy tells you you're her smart special little scholar right? good boy.
say what?
I think the bible has some truth in it bit, over the years it was tampered with and people were hidden from the truth. The truth is Jesus was a black jew.Is the athiesm faker than a blue eyed blond hair man nailed to a cross ?
Wow, all your questions are just astoundingly absurd, and are racist as well. All the statements you keep making in your questions are utterly false. You're only 14, you don't know much.Is the athiesm faker than a blue eyed blond hair man nailed to a cross ?
Everything you have tried to assert as true is completely baseless. We know the halagroups for Semite races as well as those for other races and they do not support your ';allegations';.
The truth is that the Bible is a fanciful myth and black or white does not enter into that myth.
Even if I accept that Jesus was black, what of it?
If he was divine, then it wouldn't matter.
If he was but a man, then it wouldn't matter.
If he never existed, then it wouldn't matter.
if you believe the bible. it says the ha adam was a ruddy man or a man that shows blood in his face [blush] that describes me when I drink to much.
I don't see what race has to do with it.
I don't see what difference it makes if he was black, white or purple.
The question is - did he exist??
Who cares god is just as real as the magical leprechauns in my underwear drawer.
let me guess, your mommy tells you you're her smart special little scholar right? good boy.
say what?
What bible verse says the ten commandments were nailed to the cross?
There is a bible verse that says we live my grace now and not by the law, it also says something about not having to follow the ten commandments anymore but to still have common sense not to murder and lust and I think all the other commandments in the Old Testament except resting o the Sabbath. There is also a verse about Worshiping God everyday and not JUST on the Sabbath.
I am trying to write a thing for my speech class bout why or how it is okay to work on Sunday/Sabbath/Saturday, but I have to find the verses for it, So any verses helping me with that would be greatly appreciated!!!What bible verse says the ten commandments were nailed to the cross?
Col. 2:14
Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
Hope this helps.
Elder Greg
(((SFCU)))What bible verse says the ten commandments were nailed to the cross?
There is no verse (unless it's in the apocrypha somewhere) that says the Commandments were nailed to the cross.
The other thing you're asking about: Matthew, Mark, and Luke each tell about when a young man asked Jesus how to gain eternal life. Jesus told him to follow the commandments, and listed them. But he only listed 6 (or 5, according to Luke). The commandments he listed were the good, common-sense ones like you describe: don't kill, don't steal, don't commit adultery, that sort of thing. He left out the ones forbidding religious tolerance (Commandments 1-4).
Jesus fulfilled ALL of the old law and then set ALL of it aside, with NO exceptions.
The Church later readopted and readapted the spirit of the original commandments to the grace filled realities of the new covenant, as a GUIDE to Christian morality.
Try this link and read it carefully, all the way to the end:
http://douglawrence.wordpress.com/christ鈥?/a>
Try II Epistilepalians 32:14-16.
Sin was nailed to the cross, not the Commandments. Jesus said if you love Him follow the Commandments
Nowhere does the NT use those exact words.
romans 6:14 ';for sin shall not be your master, because you are not under the law, but under grace';
there a lot of things in the bible that only christians see there, everyone else see's it for what it is, crap
The two who answered right before me are obviously SDA and they are taking things out of context; way out of context.
The old covenant ended upon the death of Jesus who was the God of the old testament incarnate. Death of either party ends said covenants like this one as Paul explains in Romans 7. The sabbath is a part of the old covenant, regardless of how SDA's chop up the old covenant.
Paul states we are freed from that law; all of it. There is also II Cor. chapter 3 that weighs in on this matter. The last vestige of the old covenant ended with the destruction of the temple in 70 a.d.
There is no commandment in the new covenant that requires the observance of days. One can either esteem every day alike, or one can esteem a day. No one is to judge another in this regard.
.
Think about this. Who created the world? John 1 says the ';Word'; did. Who is the Word? Jesus. So, Jesus created the world in six days and then rested on the seventh. Does Jesus agree with this? Sure. He says Himself in Luke 6:5...';the Son of Man is Lord of the Sabbath. Why did He create it? He explains in Mark 2:27 ';The Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath. Ohhhh. So Jesus created the Sabbath, He is Lord of it, and it was made for man to enjoy. It doesn't say Sabbath was made for the Jews. He says MAN. That includes every man. Jesus made the Sabbath during creation week for Adam and Eve. It was not first given to the Jews as just a law or ordinance. They were told to observe it, but it started way before then, meaning it should be around after the ordinances have been fulfilled by Jesus.
You are also right, Hebrews 4 talks about how we should be at rest everyday from our sinful works. In other words, don't just avoid evil on Sabbath. What it doesn't mean is that we can then ignore the day God made inherently holy. Ex. 20:11
The reason you won't be able to find any verses that say that Sabbath is no more is #1, the issue was never in question in the apostle's day. It was understood that the day of worship was the Sabbath. And #2, Jesus never changed it.
One last proof for you that the Sabbath is for all man for all time is that the Bible says we will keep the Sabbath even in Heaven.
Isaiah 66:23 says, ';From one New Moon to another and from one Sabbath to another, all mankind will come and bow down before me,'; says the LORD.
It isn't legalism to obey the commandments of God. It is our pleasure to take a day off, and spend 24 hours in communion with Jesus and to remember His sovereignty as Creator.
You might want to change the topic of your speech. I think having the Bible to back you up would be much more convincing.
Hogie, with all due respect if there is no more law, then we are free to sin and there is nothing to even define sin. God's law is a part of His unchanging character, it is the foundation of His government.
Also Exodus 20:11 says God made the day holy when He created it. No other Jewish festival or holiday(which Paul was describing) has that distinction. And yes, I am unashamedly Seventh-Day Adventist. I'm glad you can tell.
1) Elder Greg gave the relevant verse reference - and, note, that it does *not* specify the 10 commandments (Decalogue).
2) it also says something about not having to follow the ten commandments anymore
You will *not* find this in the bible. The closest to this that you will find is Acts 15
http://www.studybibleforum.com/htm_php.p鈥?/a>
which does *not* say that we do not have to follow the Decalogue, but *does* say that only 4 of the requirements for becoming Jewish are also requirements for becoming a Christian - which is significant.
3) I think all the other commandments in the Old Testament except resting o the Sabbath
Observance of the Sabbath is specifically mentioned here (v 16)
http://www.studybibleforum.com/htm_php.p鈥?/a>
and here, less specifically (vv 4-6)
http://www.studybibleforum.com/htm_php.p鈥?/a>
which is probably the verse you are remembering about ';every day';
A final note: when discussing the Sabbath, understand that it is very precisely defined in the Old Testament. Here are some of the things I know about it off the top of my head - things that most Sabbath observers fail to ';observe';
1) Sabbath is defined in scripture as beginning Fri sundown and ending Sat sundown. There is no option for calling ';Sunday'; the Sabbath.
2) during Sabbath, observers are not permitted to prepare food - in fact, they are not permitted to do so much as start a fire. Observant Jews will not drive (combustion engine) nor even flip an electrical switch (which causes a momentary burning) during Sabbath. Food is prepared the day before and the only work that is permitted with regard to food is the serving of it.
More verses: 12
http://www.studybibleforum.com/htm_php.p鈥?/a>
and 27
http://www.studybibleforum.com/htm_php.p鈥?/a>
9-10
http://www.studybibleforum.com/htm_php.p鈥?/a>
Jim, http://www.bible-reviews.com/makeup
I am trying to write a thing for my speech class bout why or how it is okay to work on Sunday/Sabbath/Saturday, but I have to find the verses for it, So any verses helping me with that would be greatly appreciated!!!What bible verse says the ten commandments were nailed to the cross?
Col. 2:14
Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
Hope this helps.
Elder Greg
(((SFCU)))What bible verse says the ten commandments were nailed to the cross?
There is no verse (unless it's in the apocrypha somewhere) that says the Commandments were nailed to the cross.
The other thing you're asking about: Matthew, Mark, and Luke each tell about when a young man asked Jesus how to gain eternal life. Jesus told him to follow the commandments, and listed them. But he only listed 6 (or 5, according to Luke). The commandments he listed were the good, common-sense ones like you describe: don't kill, don't steal, don't commit adultery, that sort of thing. He left out the ones forbidding religious tolerance (Commandments 1-4).
Jesus fulfilled ALL of the old law and then set ALL of it aside, with NO exceptions.
The Church later readopted and readapted the spirit of the original commandments to the grace filled realities of the new covenant, as a GUIDE to Christian morality.
Try this link and read it carefully, all the way to the end:
http://douglawrence.wordpress.com/christ鈥?/a>
Try II Epistilepalians 32:14-16.
Sin was nailed to the cross, not the Commandments. Jesus said if you love Him follow the Commandments
Nowhere does the NT use those exact words.
romans 6:14 ';for sin shall not be your master, because you are not under the law, but under grace';
there a lot of things in the bible that only christians see there, everyone else see's it for what it is, crap
The two who answered right before me are obviously SDA and they are taking things out of context; way out of context.
The old covenant ended upon the death of Jesus who was the God of the old testament incarnate. Death of either party ends said covenants like this one as Paul explains in Romans 7. The sabbath is a part of the old covenant, regardless of how SDA's chop up the old covenant.
Paul states we are freed from that law; all of it. There is also II Cor. chapter 3 that weighs in on this matter. The last vestige of the old covenant ended with the destruction of the temple in 70 a.d.
There is no commandment in the new covenant that requires the observance of days. One can either esteem every day alike, or one can esteem a day. No one is to judge another in this regard.
.
Think about this. Who created the world? John 1 says the ';Word'; did. Who is the Word? Jesus. So, Jesus created the world in six days and then rested on the seventh. Does Jesus agree with this? Sure. He says Himself in Luke 6:5...';the Son of Man is Lord of the Sabbath. Why did He create it? He explains in Mark 2:27 ';The Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath. Ohhhh. So Jesus created the Sabbath, He is Lord of it, and it was made for man to enjoy. It doesn't say Sabbath was made for the Jews. He says MAN. That includes every man. Jesus made the Sabbath during creation week for Adam and Eve. It was not first given to the Jews as just a law or ordinance. They were told to observe it, but it started way before then, meaning it should be around after the ordinances have been fulfilled by Jesus.
You are also right, Hebrews 4 talks about how we should be at rest everyday from our sinful works. In other words, don't just avoid evil on Sabbath. What it doesn't mean is that we can then ignore the day God made inherently holy. Ex. 20:11
The reason you won't be able to find any verses that say that Sabbath is no more is #1, the issue was never in question in the apostle's day. It was understood that the day of worship was the Sabbath. And #2, Jesus never changed it.
One last proof for you that the Sabbath is for all man for all time is that the Bible says we will keep the Sabbath even in Heaven.
Isaiah 66:23 says, ';From one New Moon to another and from one Sabbath to another, all mankind will come and bow down before me,'; says the LORD.
It isn't legalism to obey the commandments of God. It is our pleasure to take a day off, and spend 24 hours in communion with Jesus and to remember His sovereignty as Creator.
You might want to change the topic of your speech. I think having the Bible to back you up would be much more convincing.
Hogie, with all due respect if there is no more law, then we are free to sin and there is nothing to even define sin. God's law is a part of His unchanging character, it is the foundation of His government.
Also Exodus 20:11 says God made the day holy when He created it. No other Jewish festival or holiday(which Paul was describing) has that distinction. And yes, I am unashamedly Seventh-Day Adventist. I'm glad you can tell.
1) Elder Greg gave the relevant verse reference - and, note, that it does *not* specify the 10 commandments (Decalogue).
2) it also says something about not having to follow the ten commandments anymore
You will *not* find this in the bible. The closest to this that you will find is Acts 15
http://www.studybibleforum.com/htm_php.p鈥?/a>
which does *not* say that we do not have to follow the Decalogue, but *does* say that only 4 of the requirements for becoming Jewish are also requirements for becoming a Christian - which is significant.
3) I think all the other commandments in the Old Testament except resting o the Sabbath
Observance of the Sabbath is specifically mentioned here (v 16)
http://www.studybibleforum.com/htm_php.p鈥?/a>
and here, less specifically (vv 4-6)
http://www.studybibleforum.com/htm_php.p鈥?/a>
which is probably the verse you are remembering about ';every day';
A final note: when discussing the Sabbath, understand that it is very precisely defined in the Old Testament. Here are some of the things I know about it off the top of my head - things that most Sabbath observers fail to ';observe';
1) Sabbath is defined in scripture as beginning Fri sundown and ending Sat sundown. There is no option for calling ';Sunday'; the Sabbath.
2) during Sabbath, observers are not permitted to prepare food - in fact, they are not permitted to do so much as start a fire. Observant Jews will not drive (combustion engine) nor even flip an electrical switch (which causes a momentary burning) during Sabbath. Food is prepared the day before and the only work that is permitted with regard to food is the serving of it.
More verses: 12
http://www.studybibleforum.com/htm_php.p鈥?/a>
and 27
http://www.studybibleforum.com/htm_php.p鈥?/a>
9-10
http://www.studybibleforum.com/htm_php.p鈥?/a>
Jim, http://www.bible-reviews.com/
Was jesus cross when they nailed him to the Cross? Did it make him angry to be crucified like that?
Or did he automatically have to forgive everyone despite being nailed to some planks?Was jesus cross when they nailed him to the Cross? Did it make him angry to be crucified like that?
He felt rejection by His Father, God.Was jesus cross when they nailed him to the Cross? Did it make him angry to be crucified like that?
It's funny. In trying to be as controversial and offensive as possible, you're actually putting into words how brutal His death was, so I thank you for that. Many of us forget that He really was *nailed* to planks of wood and left to die. Thank you, very much, for that reminder.
And, no, He wasn't cross. He used His last breaths to beg for forgiveness on our behalf... He is very, very *very* beautiful.
He was not angry... He knew that He had to fulfill the scriptures.
He also knew forehand the pain He would endure...... that's why He prayed ';Father if it be thy will... take this cup from me... nevertheless... not My will but Yours be done';.....
He knew that it was the will of the Father.... and He also knew that His Father would not let him carry more than He could bear.....
God told his son Jesus ahead of time that he was going to be crucified to save people, to make an impact to deter people from sin, and to guarantee them heaven if they repented. Jesus didn't want to go thru all that pain and suffering, sure He was afraid, and prayed a lot about it. But he accepted his father's decision.
In the first place Jesus didn't die on a cross he died in a torture stake or a pole. The words Stauros and Xylon Hebrew and Greek words, do not mean cross, but a single piece of wood Was he angry? I think he was more sad than angry, if he was. Because of the fact that the majority of the Jews, His fathers' people, had rejected him. A Bible commentator once said that it was very probable that Jesus died, more likely of a broken heart, while he was nailed to the pole.
it broke his heart that he was being separated from God for our sins.
He did it because that is how much he loves us.
He did not have to forgive the ones who nailed him,
he asked God to forgive them because he knew they did not know what they were doing.
another example of his love for us.
The answer to your question is in God's Word, the Bible:
';Father, forgive them for they know not what they do';.
How incredible is that, when you think of the torture, pain, and everything He endured for us.
It demands a response, doesn't it!
Try reading the Gospels (Matthew, Mark Luke and John) You will find the answers contained within there. Jesus layed down His life willingly for the payment of our sins, even yours. No one took His life, He gave it, He sacrificed it for us. That is true love.
Luke 22:42 Saying, Father, if thou be willing, remove this cup from me: nevertheless not my will, but thine, be done
Luke 23:34 Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do...
He was saddened by us for having to go that far. Angry he was not. Yes he automatically forgave us for nailing him there. Read the bible your answer is there. You just have to look.
it's in the book
haven't you read it yet
it didn't surprise Him
He had the power to avoid it
He didn't...think about it...if you don't read
No dear one, amaizing as it was, even during that time, it was all about forgiveness.
Then Jesus said, ';Father forgive them, for they do not know what they are doing.'; - from the cross.
he was 'nailed'. Owned.
obviously he would be angry.
I'm sure he felt no different from the thousands of other Jews dying on crosses which lined the streets of Jerusalem. The Romans had many methods of torture preceding death.
.
He was resigned to the inevitable and yes He said '; Father forgive them for they know not what they do ';
My belief is that Jesus was a pacifist and a martyr. They say he asked God to forgive the people who treated him so horribly.
Namaste!
he probably wasnt all that happy to be strung up there for so long
He felt rejection by His Father, God.Was jesus cross when they nailed him to the Cross? Did it make him angry to be crucified like that?
It's funny. In trying to be as controversial and offensive as possible, you're actually putting into words how brutal His death was, so I thank you for that. Many of us forget that He really was *nailed* to planks of wood and left to die. Thank you, very much, for that reminder.
And, no, He wasn't cross. He used His last breaths to beg for forgiveness on our behalf... He is very, very *very* beautiful.
He was not angry... He knew that He had to fulfill the scriptures.
He also knew forehand the pain He would endure...... that's why He prayed ';Father if it be thy will... take this cup from me... nevertheless... not My will but Yours be done';.....
He knew that it was the will of the Father.... and He also knew that His Father would not let him carry more than He could bear.....
God told his son Jesus ahead of time that he was going to be crucified to save people, to make an impact to deter people from sin, and to guarantee them heaven if they repented. Jesus didn't want to go thru all that pain and suffering, sure He was afraid, and prayed a lot about it. But he accepted his father's decision.
In the first place Jesus didn't die on a cross he died in a torture stake or a pole. The words Stauros and Xylon Hebrew and Greek words, do not mean cross, but a single piece of wood Was he angry? I think he was more sad than angry, if he was. Because of the fact that the majority of the Jews, His fathers' people, had rejected him. A Bible commentator once said that it was very probable that Jesus died, more likely of a broken heart, while he was nailed to the pole.
it broke his heart that he was being separated from God for our sins.
He did it because that is how much he loves us.
He did not have to forgive the ones who nailed him,
he asked God to forgive them because he knew they did not know what they were doing.
another example of his love for us.
The answer to your question is in God's Word, the Bible:
';Father, forgive them for they know not what they do';.
How incredible is that, when you think of the torture, pain, and everything He endured for us.
It demands a response, doesn't it!
Try reading the Gospels (Matthew, Mark Luke and John) You will find the answers contained within there. Jesus layed down His life willingly for the payment of our sins, even yours. No one took His life, He gave it, He sacrificed it for us. That is true love.
Luke 22:42 Saying, Father, if thou be willing, remove this cup from me: nevertheless not my will, but thine, be done
Luke 23:34 Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do...
He was saddened by us for having to go that far. Angry he was not. Yes he automatically forgave us for nailing him there. Read the bible your answer is there. You just have to look.
it's in the book
haven't you read it yet
it didn't surprise Him
He had the power to avoid it
He didn't...think about it...if you don't read
No dear one, amaizing as it was, even during that time, it was all about forgiveness.
Then Jesus said, ';Father forgive them, for they do not know what they are doing.'; - from the cross.
he was 'nailed'. Owned.
obviously he would be angry.
I'm sure he felt no different from the thousands of other Jews dying on crosses which lined the streets of Jerusalem. The Romans had many methods of torture preceding death.
.
He was resigned to the inevitable and yes He said '; Father forgive them for they know not what they do ';
My belief is that Jesus was a pacifist and a martyr. They say he asked God to forgive the people who treated him so horribly.
Namaste!
he probably wasnt all that happy to be strung up there for so long
Saturday, January 23, 2010
How can the Law of God be nailed to the cross if Jesus said . . . ?
';till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled.'; (Mt 5:18) Has heaven and earth passed away? Has everything prophised to happen in Scripture happened? If not, then how do you justify that the very same Law that Jesus is refering to is now done away with by being nailed to the cross (Colossians 2:14)?
Also, please see my blog lessons: http://blog.360.yahoo.com/blog-waFeix0hd鈥?/a>How can the Law of God be nailed to the cross if Jesus said . . . ?
The Lord has spoken exactly thus (excerpt):
';';';I do not change...I am the same yesterday, today and all tomorrows to come. What I have written let no man change. Rather, follow Me as I have said and not as you would have Me say. Keep the Father鈥檚 commandments, as He had written them in stone by His own finger...in number, ten. Keep them all, remember them all, and do them according to how they are written, not as man has rewritten them, and it shall be credited unto you for righteousness. I have freed you from the curse of the Law; I have not freed you from obedience to the Law. Rather, I have given you the means, by My own Spirit, to keep the Law. Oh beloved, why do you not understand My speech? Why do you not love Me? Why have you lost the desire to follow Me? My love has not changed, yet you have changed, becoming lords unto yourselves. Beloved, keep what the Father has given you...stop desecrating His Sabbaths! The Law stands forever, and all that is contained therein also stands. Even from Sabbath to Sabbath, in the Kingdom, shall the nations come up to Jerusalem and worship Me.';';'; ~ YahShua (Jesus)How can the Law of God be nailed to the cross if Jesus said . . . ?
Yes indeed everything has been fulfilled and this is exactly what Jesus said.
Mat. 5: 17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
ALL The Law is fulfilled.
Good question. It seems to me that Christians have managed to talk themselves into believing the opposite of what their gospel actually teaching.
Don't forget the next verse either...
19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
You are ignoring the context, esp. verse 17. Jesus refers to the ';law or the prophets.';
There are no laws codified in the prophets where they could be either fulfilled or destroyed.
The only thing in the law and prophets with the potential to be fulfilled or destroyed are prophesies.
The English does a poor job of handling the transition between vv 17 and 18. Jesus came and fulfilled what was written of him in the law and the prophets; similarly everything eschatalogically will be fulfilled before heaven and earth pass away.
Your take actually declares that, once everything has been done and heaven and earth pass away, so too passes this law that your ilk insists is eternal, etc.
.
A PART of the law was nailed to the Cross.
But which part ?
What was Jesus ? -
Jesus was the ';Sacrificial Lamb that takes away the sins of the world';
And as the ';Sacrificial Lamb'; the ONLY part of the law He fulfilled was the ';Sacrificial Law';
To emphasize this, God ripped the curtain in the Temple from the top down.
If anyone tries to say anything different - they are 'preaching another gospel'
May God bless you as you study His Word
%26lt;:)))%26gt;%26lt;
Reading the entire chapter you will find that Jesus fulfilled the law.
The law is not destroyed but is indeed fulfilled in that those who accept the atonement of Jesus Christ are by faith made new no longer under the law but new creatures made in agreement with the righteousness of God.
Gal.3: 24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.
It is through the law we relaize our sin and know our need for God and our need for a Savior.
The law has not made one man righteous but through the law we see our need and accept by faith the atonement of Jesus Christ.
It is by faith in Jesus Christ we are made new and through his righteousness we are joined to God for eternal life.
I am sorry but you are mistaking the meaning of the Sabbath for the law of the Sabbath.
It would be like considering the sacrifices as only a law without the understanding of what the sacrifces represent.
The Sabbath is much greater than simply a Mosaiac law.
The Sabbath is God's rest and we that enter it receive his rest.
This we receive by faith through Jesus Christ.
Mat.11:28 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
The Sabbath is more than simply one day of the week.
God did not rest because he became tired.
God rested for our salvation.
Romans 9:28 For he will finish the work, and cut it short in righteousness: because a short work will the Lord make upon the earth.
29 And as Esaias said before, Except the Lord of Sabaoth had left us a seed, we had been as Sodoma, and been made like unto Gomorrha.
Mat. 24:21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect鈥檚 sake those days shall be shortened.
The literal law is fulfilled by Jesus.
It through his atonement we are by faith made new through his righteousness.
No longer under the law but new creatures.
These laws are the shadows of the coming of Christ,
Clean and unclean and Sabbaths and sacrifces.
Col.2: 16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.
This I say by faith we are made new because we have not literally died and bee born again but by faith we reckon oursleves dead to sin and resurrected in the resurrection of Christ.
Romans 6:11 Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.
This day of salvation this day of God's rest is more than a literal day but this day we have today through faith in Jesus Christ and this day will come with his return.
2 Peter 3:8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand ayears, and a thousand years as one day.
9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
Our Lord Jesus Christ brought to us this day of salvation and it is through him we are by faith made new and do enter his rest.
I say by faith because we are not yet literally born again and this literal day has not yet come.
The day of the lord will come with the return of Jesus who will rule the world for one thousand years.
Edit to those who believe the Sabbath is simply one day of a week...Why did Christ curse the fig tree? Are we to bear fruit in season and out of season or do we simply follow the law?
Friends if you are made new you are not under the law but freed from the law and you will bear fruit in season and out of season not because the law says so but because you are made NEW.
The Jews followed the law because they thought it was good to make them righteous they missed the spiritual meaning behind the law. The law makes no one righteous not one.
God is all knowing and foreknew man could not uphold his law...We failed. God did not give us the law to make us righteous. He gave us the law to know our sin and to see our need for a Savior. It is through Christ we can be made new through his righteousness not our own.
The law condemns us to death and Jesus brings us the resurrection.
There are wonderful truths and spiritual meanings behind the law. The law is God's righteousness not man's. It is important that we understand the meaning of the law and the meaning of the Sabbath and the sacrifices and the clean and unclean laws that represent our salvation through Jesus Christ.
The written code was those things written in the spiritual books for the covenant fulfillment was your sins I Will remember no more and they will be blotted out for Jesus' is named to save His People from their sins.
The law mentioned, therefore, in Paul is the sinful nature of the inner being as in the context of the uncircumcised hearts.
If anyone remain in Christ they are a new creation, created to bear fruit in keeping with repentance. For The Gardener will remove those branches that do not bear the fruit of love, joy, peace, suffering patience, goodness, faith, meekness, and self-control. For if we feel asleep in Christ we will be Raised with Him, The Resurrection before who we must give account. The Tabernacle is sowed one way, and raised eternal. The cares of the world choke the fruit and make it to become fruitless, so that one should persist in these things that well up to eternal rewards by continuing to look intently at God's Word.
the law has not been done away with. it has been fulfilled and that is not the same as done away with. the law was never a means of salvation. never. would God give laws that if followed would bring salvation if God knew no one could do this? only Jesus was able to follow the law completely and therefore was given all authority over heaven and earth. we cannot!
the only thing that can bring salvation is faith. abraham was justified by faith not by following the law for the law had not yet been given. God called david '; a man after mine own heart';. did david follow the law completely? NO! he committed adultery and murder. but yet david was justified. why? faith! complete and sincere faith in God. the law was fulfilled with Jesus and someday it will be completed.
Peace!!
key words:
'; till all is fulfilled.';
Jesus fulfilled it (the law) all prior to His ascension
Hbr 4:15 For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as [we are, yet] without sin.
RE: your blog....no thanks
Mat 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
Jesus fulfilled it when he was on the cross, when he said (it is finished) at that moment it was fulfilled.
that is not what it means when it says the law of God in that Colossians reference. THe written code it was refering to was the Jewish law in the old testament of sacrifices of animals to cover sins. Instead He died on the cross for our sins. It is saying that Jesus took the old rules and replaced them on the cross with his death for everyone.
The portion of the Law that Paul declares to have been nailed to the cross, is ';the ordinances that were against us.';
These ordinances, as applied to the Jews by the Jewish leadership, are man-made, and not from God.
Heaven %26amp; Earth have not passed away, so it safe to say the Law has not all been fulfilled, All that was nailed to the cross was the curse that
came with not doing the Law, For Y'shua became a curse for us,
cursed is everyone who hangs on a tree.
The ';law'; nailed to the cross was the ';tradition of men'; in Colossians 2:8, the decrees ';hostile'; to us:
Col 2:8 See to it that no one takes you captive through philosophy and empty deception, according to the *tradition of men*, according to the elementary principles of the world, rather than according to Christ.
Col 2:14 having canceled out the certificate of debt consisting of *decrees* against us and which was *hostile* to us; and He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross.
Mark 7:9 He was also saying to them, ';You nicely set aside the commandment of God in order to keep your tradition.
The burden of the Pharissees:
Mat 23:4 For they bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne, and lay them on men's shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers.
John 7:19 Did not Moses give you the law, and yet none of you keepeth the law? Why go ye about to kill me?
The Law of our Creator, the God of Israel, is NOT hostile toward us though quite the contrary:
Psa 119:165 Those who love Thy law have great peace, And nothing causes them to stumble.
Psa 119:142 Thy righteousness is an everlasting righteousness, And Thy law is truth.
Isa 51:7 ';Listen to Me, you who know righteousness, A people in whose heart is My law; Do not fear the reproach of man, Neither be dismayed at their revilings.
Thank you for this question. First off you really have to believe in Jesus Christ with all your heart, soul, mind, and strength, and Jesus said unto them to love thy neighbor as thyself these are the two greatest commandments. My question to you is are you a true believer of Jesus Christ and fully committed to Him?
Then to directly address this question. You must take the entire Holy Bible into account with the help of the Holy Spirit of Almighty God. 1 Cor 12, Genesis 1:26, John 14:26; Matthew 28:18-20;Philliapians 3:3.
With these scriptures What about the vreses above them, and below them? Who was talking all the way through? What all were they talking about? What was the full context of the Chapter not simply a verse here and there. Some people will try to take the Holy Bible and make it sound the way they want it to, with a verse here and there.
This is why Jehovah Elohim, Jah, Yawhew, Jehovah Adonia, Rophi, Rophe, King of kings and Lord of lords, gave us the entire Bible from cover to cover. We are still supposed to obey the Ten Commandments, Found in two places in the old testiment. Exodus 20; and Deut. 5.
So with the love of Christ agape love, Please 2 Timothy 2:15 a little more, and always ask the Holy Spirit to help you with your studying. This is why 40 days after Jesus died and ascended to the Father He told His disciples earlier I must go to the Father so I can send you another Helper, comforter, counsler, until I return. Book of Acts among other places.
I personally have been studying the Holy Bible no less than twice a day every day for almost 5 years without much man's books in the process.
Have a blessed day in the Lord Jesus REPENT 1 John 1:9; Psalms 51-53, Revelation entire book James 5:15, Luke 9:62; Luke 6:46-49.
Also, please see my blog lessons: http://blog.360.yahoo.com/blog-waFeix0hd鈥?/a>How can the Law of God be nailed to the cross if Jesus said . . . ?
The Lord has spoken exactly thus (excerpt):
';';';I do not change...I am the same yesterday, today and all tomorrows to come. What I have written let no man change. Rather, follow Me as I have said and not as you would have Me say. Keep the Father鈥檚 commandments, as He had written them in stone by His own finger...in number, ten. Keep them all, remember them all, and do them according to how they are written, not as man has rewritten them, and it shall be credited unto you for righteousness. I have freed you from the curse of the Law; I have not freed you from obedience to the Law. Rather, I have given you the means, by My own Spirit, to keep the Law. Oh beloved, why do you not understand My speech? Why do you not love Me? Why have you lost the desire to follow Me? My love has not changed, yet you have changed, becoming lords unto yourselves. Beloved, keep what the Father has given you...stop desecrating His Sabbaths! The Law stands forever, and all that is contained therein also stands. Even from Sabbath to Sabbath, in the Kingdom, shall the nations come up to Jerusalem and worship Me.';';'; ~ YahShua (Jesus)How can the Law of God be nailed to the cross if Jesus said . . . ?
Yes indeed everything has been fulfilled and this is exactly what Jesus said.
Mat. 5: 17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
ALL The Law is fulfilled.
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Good question. It seems to me that Christians have managed to talk themselves into believing the opposite of what their gospel actually teaching.
Don't forget the next verse either...
19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
You are ignoring the context, esp. verse 17. Jesus refers to the ';law or the prophets.';
There are no laws codified in the prophets where they could be either fulfilled or destroyed.
The only thing in the law and prophets with the potential to be fulfilled or destroyed are prophesies.
The English does a poor job of handling the transition between vv 17 and 18. Jesus came and fulfilled what was written of him in the law and the prophets; similarly everything eschatalogically will be fulfilled before heaven and earth pass away.
Your take actually declares that, once everything has been done and heaven and earth pass away, so too passes this law that your ilk insists is eternal, etc.
.
A PART of the law was nailed to the Cross.
But which part ?
What was Jesus ? -
Jesus was the ';Sacrificial Lamb that takes away the sins of the world';
And as the ';Sacrificial Lamb'; the ONLY part of the law He fulfilled was the ';Sacrificial Law';
To emphasize this, God ripped the curtain in the Temple from the top down.
If anyone tries to say anything different - they are 'preaching another gospel'
May God bless you as you study His Word
%26lt;:)))%26gt;%26lt;
Reading the entire chapter you will find that Jesus fulfilled the law.
The law is not destroyed but is indeed fulfilled in that those who accept the atonement of Jesus Christ are by faith made new no longer under the law but new creatures made in agreement with the righteousness of God.
Gal.3: 24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.
It is through the law we relaize our sin and know our need for God and our need for a Savior.
The law has not made one man righteous but through the law we see our need and accept by faith the atonement of Jesus Christ.
It is by faith in Jesus Christ we are made new and through his righteousness we are joined to God for eternal life.
I am sorry but you are mistaking the meaning of the Sabbath for the law of the Sabbath.
It would be like considering the sacrifices as only a law without the understanding of what the sacrifces represent.
The Sabbath is much greater than simply a Mosaiac law.
The Sabbath is God's rest and we that enter it receive his rest.
This we receive by faith through Jesus Christ.
Mat.11:28 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
The Sabbath is more than simply one day of the week.
God did not rest because he became tired.
God rested for our salvation.
Romans 9:28 For he will finish the work, and cut it short in righteousness: because a short work will the Lord make upon the earth.
29 And as Esaias said before, Except the Lord of Sabaoth had left us a seed, we had been as Sodoma, and been made like unto Gomorrha.
Mat. 24:21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect鈥檚 sake those days shall be shortened.
The literal law is fulfilled by Jesus.
It through his atonement we are by faith made new through his righteousness.
No longer under the law but new creatures.
These laws are the shadows of the coming of Christ,
Clean and unclean and Sabbaths and sacrifces.
Col.2: 16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.
This I say by faith we are made new because we have not literally died and bee born again but by faith we reckon oursleves dead to sin and resurrected in the resurrection of Christ.
Romans 6:11 Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.
This day of salvation this day of God's rest is more than a literal day but this day we have today through faith in Jesus Christ and this day will come with his return.
2 Peter 3:8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand ayears, and a thousand years as one day.
9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
Our Lord Jesus Christ brought to us this day of salvation and it is through him we are by faith made new and do enter his rest.
I say by faith because we are not yet literally born again and this literal day has not yet come.
The day of the lord will come with the return of Jesus who will rule the world for one thousand years.
Edit to those who believe the Sabbath is simply one day of a week...Why did Christ curse the fig tree? Are we to bear fruit in season and out of season or do we simply follow the law?
Friends if you are made new you are not under the law but freed from the law and you will bear fruit in season and out of season not because the law says so but because you are made NEW.
The Jews followed the law because they thought it was good to make them righteous they missed the spiritual meaning behind the law. The law makes no one righteous not one.
God is all knowing and foreknew man could not uphold his law...We failed. God did not give us the law to make us righteous. He gave us the law to know our sin and to see our need for a Savior. It is through Christ we can be made new through his righteousness not our own.
The law condemns us to death and Jesus brings us the resurrection.
There are wonderful truths and spiritual meanings behind the law. The law is God's righteousness not man's. It is important that we understand the meaning of the law and the meaning of the Sabbath and the sacrifices and the clean and unclean laws that represent our salvation through Jesus Christ.
The written code was those things written in the spiritual books for the covenant fulfillment was your sins I Will remember no more and they will be blotted out for Jesus' is named to save His People from their sins.
The law mentioned, therefore, in Paul is the sinful nature of the inner being as in the context of the uncircumcised hearts.
If anyone remain in Christ they are a new creation, created to bear fruit in keeping with repentance. For The Gardener will remove those branches that do not bear the fruit of love, joy, peace, suffering patience, goodness, faith, meekness, and self-control. For if we feel asleep in Christ we will be Raised with Him, The Resurrection before who we must give account. The Tabernacle is sowed one way, and raised eternal. The cares of the world choke the fruit and make it to become fruitless, so that one should persist in these things that well up to eternal rewards by continuing to look intently at God's Word.
the law has not been done away with. it has been fulfilled and that is not the same as done away with. the law was never a means of salvation. never. would God give laws that if followed would bring salvation if God knew no one could do this? only Jesus was able to follow the law completely and therefore was given all authority over heaven and earth. we cannot!
the only thing that can bring salvation is faith. abraham was justified by faith not by following the law for the law had not yet been given. God called david '; a man after mine own heart';. did david follow the law completely? NO! he committed adultery and murder. but yet david was justified. why? faith! complete and sincere faith in God. the law was fulfilled with Jesus and someday it will be completed.
Peace!!
key words:
'; till all is fulfilled.';
Jesus fulfilled it (the law) all prior to His ascension
Hbr 4:15 For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as [we are, yet] without sin.
RE: your blog....no thanks
Mat 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
Jesus fulfilled it when he was on the cross, when he said (it is finished) at that moment it was fulfilled.
that is not what it means when it says the law of God in that Colossians reference. THe written code it was refering to was the Jewish law in the old testament of sacrifices of animals to cover sins. Instead He died on the cross for our sins. It is saying that Jesus took the old rules and replaced them on the cross with his death for everyone.
The portion of the Law that Paul declares to have been nailed to the cross, is ';the ordinances that were against us.';
These ordinances, as applied to the Jews by the Jewish leadership, are man-made, and not from God.
Heaven %26amp; Earth have not passed away, so it safe to say the Law has not all been fulfilled, All that was nailed to the cross was the curse that
came with not doing the Law, For Y'shua became a curse for us,
cursed is everyone who hangs on a tree.
The ';law'; nailed to the cross was the ';tradition of men'; in Colossians 2:8, the decrees ';hostile'; to us:
Col 2:8 See to it that no one takes you captive through philosophy and empty deception, according to the *tradition of men*, according to the elementary principles of the world, rather than according to Christ.
Col 2:14 having canceled out the certificate of debt consisting of *decrees* against us and which was *hostile* to us; and He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross.
Mark 7:9 He was also saying to them, ';You nicely set aside the commandment of God in order to keep your tradition.
The burden of the Pharissees:
Mat 23:4 For they bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne, and lay them on men's shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers.
John 7:19 Did not Moses give you the law, and yet none of you keepeth the law? Why go ye about to kill me?
The Law of our Creator, the God of Israel, is NOT hostile toward us though quite the contrary:
Psa 119:165 Those who love Thy law have great peace, And nothing causes them to stumble.
Psa 119:142 Thy righteousness is an everlasting righteousness, And Thy law is truth.
Isa 51:7 ';Listen to Me, you who know righteousness, A people in whose heart is My law; Do not fear the reproach of man, Neither be dismayed at their revilings.
Thank you for this question. First off you really have to believe in Jesus Christ with all your heart, soul, mind, and strength, and Jesus said unto them to love thy neighbor as thyself these are the two greatest commandments. My question to you is are you a true believer of Jesus Christ and fully committed to Him?
Then to directly address this question. You must take the entire Holy Bible into account with the help of the Holy Spirit of Almighty God. 1 Cor 12, Genesis 1:26, John 14:26; Matthew 28:18-20;Philliapians 3:3.
With these scriptures What about the vreses above them, and below them? Who was talking all the way through? What all were they talking about? What was the full context of the Chapter not simply a verse here and there. Some people will try to take the Holy Bible and make it sound the way they want it to, with a verse here and there.
This is why Jehovah Elohim, Jah, Yawhew, Jehovah Adonia, Rophi, Rophe, King of kings and Lord of lords, gave us the entire Bible from cover to cover. We are still supposed to obey the Ten Commandments, Found in two places in the old testiment. Exodus 20; and Deut. 5.
So with the love of Christ agape love, Please 2 Timothy 2:15 a little more, and always ask the Holy Spirit to help you with your studying. This is why 40 days after Jesus died and ascended to the Father He told His disciples earlier I must go to the Father so I can send you another Helper, comforter, counsler, until I return. Book of Acts among other places.
I personally have been studying the Holy Bible no less than twice a day every day for almost 5 years without much man's books in the process.
Have a blessed day in the Lord Jesus REPENT 1 John 1:9; Psalms 51-53, Revelation entire book James 5:15, Luke 9:62; Luke 6:46-49.
My god carries a hammer, yours was nailed to a cross - any questions?
lol i just read that on a t-shirt and thought it was funny. another one i like is ';solstice is the reason for the season'; oh, and ';if the broom fits, ride it';
i found those at this website after being inspired by pangels question about t-shirts http://www.cafepress.com/buy/pagan/-/sor…
do you have any cute slogans you like that pertain to your religion?My god carries a hammer, yours was nailed to a cross - any questions?
Yeah ....I was just wondering how high you'll be able to jump over the flames when your god comes after you with that hammer?My god carries a hammer, yours was nailed to a cross - any questions?
i don't know about sayings but theres a lot of smiting in there when they do talk haha
Only sheep need a shepherd.
People see humor differently and in different things. I'm sure you meant no harm, but I found the first saying offensive. The others were, OK.
This one is still circulating around the Democratic Underground site:
';Get a brain, moran!';
';I don't believe in God because
I don't believe in Mother Goose.';
Critical Thinking Saves Lives
Some that I have chuckled at are:
* Going to church doesn't make you a Christian any more than standing in a garage makes you a car.
* It's your god. They're your rules. *You* go to hell.
* I once prayed to god for a bike, but quickly found out he didn't work that way...so I stole a bike and prayed for his forgiveness
* As Long As There Are Tests, There Will Be Prayer In Public Schools.
* You know your god is man-made when he hates all the same people you do.
I do not mean to offend anyone with these and they don't pertain to my religion =)
DAMNED, BlueManticore was faster. I meant to post those! :)
Shivian Montar Balaris came up with some great ones in his comic strip ';Oh My Gods!'; found at http://ohmygods.timerift.net/
He doesn't descriminate, he pokes fun at all religions, even his own. :-)
Wicca: Pretending to be an ancient religion since 1957.
Asatru: Pillaging and burning long before Microsoft.
Shamanism: Trancing out, getting high, %26amp; speaking in tongues since before Woodstock.
Christianity: Killing you in God's name for over 2000 years.
Judaism: Believing they are the chosen ones for over 5000 years.
Eclectic: Indecisive spirituality since before Madonna.
Hinduism: Worshipping cows since before McDonalds.
Buddhism: Being spiritually apathetic longer than anyone else.
Hoodoo: Old ladies hurling curses since before Jerry Springer.
Astrology: Scapegoating Mercury retrograde... even when it's not.
Discordia: Using Chaos as a tool since before the Bush campaign.
Chaos Magick: Creating servitors using toilet plungers since before charmed.
Scientology: Making celebrities pay for God since 1950.
As far as the god has a hammer, and yours was nailed to a cross...but My God conquered death and Hell, so I can be saved! So My God is bigger than THAT !
Nice, I'd never heard that one before...though I had heard the other two.
don´t play with god..... was that funny???
Love it. I would wear one for sure! I've always liked the expression ';If you ask 5 Pagans the same question, you'll get 6 answers';lol. One of the best things about Pagans is how many have a great sense of humour and can joke about ourselves.
Blessings
i'm athorist, deal with it
http://www.cafepress.com/heathenry
7 days without prayer makes one weak
LOL! ... ;-) ... ';I'm an atheistic pagan. I reject many gods.';
“Yes, it all makes sense now! God is always right. God made atheists. Therefore, atheists are right.” -- Unkn.
Not atheism, but... “A well wokked dog never grows old.”
I saw this one about a month or two ago:
Mom, Dad.... I'm Gaelic.
::smirks::
Oh-Din
Fabulous.
How about ';I think therefore He isn't';
Life without Jesus Christ is full of Crisis
How about:
';Jesus is LARD';
';Know Jesus, No Peace.
No Jesus. Know Peace';
';There's a sucker born-agian every minute';
You get a star for this one!
';Jesus Loves Me, But I Make Him Wear A Condom';
i think those are crap if u think there funny u need to get right with God
What you see on a t-shirt, does not make it true, I have never read where God was nailed to the cross, How can they nail a spirit, God is a spirit %26amp; always will be, God is not flesh, Jesus Christ his only Begotten Son was nailed to the cross, Jesus is the one that died, Not God, People let's get the Godhead correct. Your god may have died, but My God did not, his Son did.
Unfortunately Jesus isn't god, so that t-shirt is... stupid.
I find that quite offensive actually. It just proves the ignorance of some. Jesus Christ is NOT a Christian's god. He was our Savior. His Father is our God.
eh, your god(s) is/are just as not real as the Christian god.
EDIT
The more I think about this, the more I get upset. At first I thought ';eh, more theist propaganda.'; Now, I think this is like 6 year olds in the park ';My god can beat up your god.';
Frankly, isn't that the attitude that leads to things like holy wars and genocide? Wasn't that the attitude of the Christians who forced the conversion of Europe's pagans, the Native Americans, and started the Holy Crusades?
Nope, I don't like this attitude one bit. I don't care how many ';thumbs down'; I get. This is the kind of thing I fight against as an atheist.
YOUR GOING TO HELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!…
i found those at this website after being inspired by pangels question about t-shirts http://www.cafepress.com/buy/pagan/-/sor…
do you have any cute slogans you like that pertain to your religion?My god carries a hammer, yours was nailed to a cross - any questions?
Yeah ....I was just wondering how high you'll be able to jump over the flames when your god comes after you with that hammer?My god carries a hammer, yours was nailed to a cross - any questions?
i don't know about sayings but theres a lot of smiting in there when they do talk haha
Only sheep need a shepherd.
People see humor differently and in different things. I'm sure you meant no harm, but I found the first saying offensive. The others were, OK.
This one is still circulating around the Democratic Underground site:
';Get a brain, moran!';
';I don't believe in God because
I don't believe in Mother Goose.';
Critical Thinking Saves Lives
Some that I have chuckled at are:
* Going to church doesn't make you a Christian any more than standing in a garage makes you a car.
* It's your god. They're your rules. *You* go to hell.
* I once prayed to god for a bike, but quickly found out he didn't work that way...so I stole a bike and prayed for his forgiveness
* As Long As There Are Tests, There Will Be Prayer In Public Schools.
* You know your god is man-made when he hates all the same people you do.
I do not mean to offend anyone with these and they don't pertain to my religion =)
DAMNED, BlueManticore was faster. I meant to post those! :)
Shivian Montar Balaris came up with some great ones in his comic strip ';Oh My Gods!'; found at http://ohmygods.timerift.net/
He doesn't descriminate, he pokes fun at all religions, even his own. :-)
Wicca: Pretending to be an ancient religion since 1957.
Asatru: Pillaging and burning long before Microsoft.
Shamanism: Trancing out, getting high, %26amp; speaking in tongues since before Woodstock.
Christianity: Killing you in God's name for over 2000 years.
Judaism: Believing they are the chosen ones for over 5000 years.
Eclectic: Indecisive spirituality since before Madonna.
Hinduism: Worshipping cows since before McDonalds.
Buddhism: Being spiritually apathetic longer than anyone else.
Hoodoo: Old ladies hurling curses since before Jerry Springer.
Astrology: Scapegoating Mercury retrograde... even when it's not.
Discordia: Using Chaos as a tool since before the Bush campaign.
Chaos Magick: Creating servitors using toilet plungers since before charmed.
Scientology: Making celebrities pay for God since 1950.
As far as the god has a hammer, and yours was nailed to a cross...but My God conquered death and Hell, so I can be saved! So My God is bigger than THAT !
Nice, I'd never heard that one before...though I had heard the other two.
don´t play with god..... was that funny???
Love it. I would wear one for sure! I've always liked the expression ';If you ask 5 Pagans the same question, you'll get 6 answers';lol. One of the best things about Pagans is how many have a great sense of humour and can joke about ourselves.
Blessings
i'm athorist, deal with it
http://www.cafepress.com/heathenry
7 days without prayer makes one weak
LOL! ... ;-) ... ';I'm an atheistic pagan. I reject many gods.';
“Yes, it all makes sense now! God is always right. God made atheists. Therefore, atheists are right.” -- Unkn.
Not atheism, but... “A well wokked dog never grows old.”
I saw this one about a month or two ago:
Mom, Dad.... I'm Gaelic.
::smirks::
Oh-Din
Fabulous.
How about ';I think therefore He isn't';
Life without Jesus Christ is full of Crisis
How about:
';Jesus is LARD';
';Know Jesus, No Peace.
No Jesus. Know Peace';
';There's a sucker born-agian every minute';
You get a star for this one!
';Jesus Loves Me, But I Make Him Wear A Condom';
i think those are crap if u think there funny u need to get right with God
What you see on a t-shirt, does not make it true, I have never read where God was nailed to the cross, How can they nail a spirit, God is a spirit %26amp; always will be, God is not flesh, Jesus Christ his only Begotten Son was nailed to the cross, Jesus is the one that died, Not God, People let's get the Godhead correct. Your god may have died, but My God did not, his Son did.
Unfortunately Jesus isn't god, so that t-shirt is... stupid.
I find that quite offensive actually. It just proves the ignorance of some. Jesus Christ is NOT a Christian's god. He was our Savior. His Father is our God.
eh, your god(s) is/are just as not real as the Christian god.
EDIT
The more I think about this, the more I get upset. At first I thought ';eh, more theist propaganda.'; Now, I think this is like 6 year olds in the park ';My god can beat up your god.';
Frankly, isn't that the attitude that leads to things like holy wars and genocide? Wasn't that the attitude of the Christians who forced the conversion of Europe's pagans, the Native Americans, and started the Holy Crusades?
Nope, I don't like this attitude one bit. I don't care how many ';thumbs down'; I get. This is the kind of thing I fight against as an atheist.
YOUR GOING TO HELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!…
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