Monday, May 10, 2010

If i nailed a man to a cross, does that mean he died for our sins?

many people died on the cross before jesus supposedly did.





what makes him so special.





in islam he did not die on a cross, or for your sins.





how is this true?





and where in the bible does jesus claim trinity?If i nailed a man to a cross, does that mean he died for our sins?
lmao walah bravo 3leik ya rami hahaha, i am enjoying ur questions, another star for u brother, u really make them think





hahha jazzak Allah kheer





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Jesus claimed himself that he was not the son of God and he never claimed to anyoen that he was.





IN the Quran:











سُوۡرَةُ المَائدة


لَقَدۡ ڪَفَرَ ٱلَّذِينَ قَالُوٓاْ إِنَّ ٱللَّهَ هُوَ ٱلۡمَسِيحُ ٱبۡنُ مَرۡيَمَ‌ۖ وَقَالَ ٱلۡمَسِيحُ يَـٰبَنِىٓ إِسۡرَٲٓءِيلَ ٱعۡبُدُواْ ٱللَّهَ رَبِّى وَرَبَّڪُمۡ‌ۖ إِنَّهُ ۥ مَن يُشۡرِكۡ بِٱللَّهِ فَقَدۡ حَرَّمَ ٱللَّهُ عَلَيۡهِ ٱلۡجَنَّةَ وَمَأۡوَٮٰهُ ٱلنَّارُ‌ۖ وَمَا لِلظَّـٰلِمِينَ مِنۡ أَنصَارٍ۬ (٧٢) لَّقَدۡ ڪَفَرَ ٱلَّذِينَ قَالُوٓاْ إِنَّ ٱللَّهَ ثَالِثُ ثَلَـٰثَةٍ۬‌ۘ وَمَا مِنۡ إِلَـٰهٍ إِلَّآ إِلَـٰهٌ۬ وَٲحِدٌ۬‌ۚ وَإِن لَّمۡ يَنتَهُواْ عَمَّا يَقُولُونَ لَيَمَسَّنَّ ٱلَّذِينَ كَفَرُواْ مِنۡهُمۡ عَذَابٌ أَلِيمٌ (٧٣) أَفَلَا يَتُوبُونَ إِلَى ٱللَّهِ وَيَسۡتَغۡفِرُونَهُ ۥ‌ۚ وَٱللَّهُ غَفُورٌ۬ رَّحِيمٌ۬ (٧٤) مَّا ٱلۡمَسِيحُ ٱبۡنُ مَرۡيَمَ إِلَّا رَسُولٌ۬ قَدۡ خَلَتۡ مِن قَبۡلِهِ ٱلرُّسُلُ وَأُمُّهُ ۥ صِدِّيقَةٌ۬‌ۖ ڪَانَا يَأۡڪُلَانِ ٱلطَّعَامَ‌ۗ ٱنظُرۡ ڪَيۡفَ نُبَيِّنُ لَهُمُ ٱلۡأَيَـٰتِ ثُمَّ ٱنظُرۡ أَنَّىٰ يُؤۡفَكُونَ (٧٥)




















They do blaspheme who say: ';Allah is Christ the son of Mary.'; But said Christ: ';O children of Israel! worship Allah, my Lord, and your Lord.'; Whoever joins other gods with Allah―Allah will forbid him the Garden and the Fire will be his abode. There will for the wrong-doers be no one to help. (72) They disbelieve who say: Allah is one of three in a Trinity: for there is no god except One God. If they desist not from their word (of blasphemy), verily a grievous penalty will befall the blasphemers among them. (73) Why turn they not to Allah and seek His forgiveness? For Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful. (74) Christ the son of Mary was no more than an Messenger; many were the Messengers that passed away before him. His mother was a woman of truth. They had both to eat their (daily) food. See how Allah doth makes His Signs clear to them; yet see in what ways they are deluded away from the truth! (75)If i nailed a man to a cross, does that mean he died for our sins?
what makes him so special is that he spent his life going around telling people how great it would be if we were all nice to each other for a change.





even in the modern world, you dont often get people who try to pull people together.





as for whether or not he died for sins, i really dont know. i know nothing about Faith apparently.
if he is a messiah for a religion which recognizes sin, then yea





and he did not claim or have to claim anything... they were waiting for him and of course-like today- their is a group that believed and that didnt believe... many other people wer eexpecting him from prophesys...





islam is another religion... you will never be able to change what someone believes is the truth.
What makes Jesus' death on a cross so special? First of all He is divine, He is God- and He is perfect- any other man that died on the cross would not be able to die for our sins, because they had sin themselves. And besides who , except Christ , after dying a cruel death on the cross- rose from the grave? NO ONE
hes supposed to be special


the son of god from virgin birth who is the message of hope or whatever to humanity





the other poor guys that died on the cross are all but forgotten, they needed to have themselves an influential dad or influential writers and fans to write them a big crazy fun intriguing story of an influential dad





also cos christianity needed him to be, hence creative writers


they needed a whole different hook for their religion cos god was already taken
Jesus lived a sinless life making him perfect. In the old testament to have sins forgiven you had to have a clean animal blood sacrifice, most of the time a lamb. That is why our sins are forgiven. The people that were crucified before Jesus did not live perfect lives (hench why they were crucified).
Jesus NEVER was nailed to a cross, it was an olive tree. His hands were nailed above him NOT to his sides forming a T. And he knew that he was being ridiculed and tortured for our sins. God wanted to destroy humans as a race but instead Jesus gave himself for us to be saved. He believed in us that much and look at us, we spit in God's face by fornicating, killing, stealing and not believing in him whole-heartedly. It's really sad and I am guilty of it myself.
If you can get enough folks to say that he did, then the rumour will get started.
Because he was God's perfect sacrifice. He had done no sin, therefore he could take our sins. Stop making stupid arguements. These are not supposed to be retarded arguements. These are supposed to be answering questions.
He was the perfect Lamb of God, who knew no sin





B) Jesus claimed to be the God of Abraham and Moses!





';Before Abraham was born, I Am.'; (Book of John - Bible)
No D A your first question is stupidy .In Islam he is not accepted as our Lord and Savior.If you read the new testament you may learn something.
';If i nailed a man to a cross, does that mean he died for our sins?';





Most likely, no.
No.
no he died cause you killed.....

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