Friday, May 14, 2010

Was Jesus tied on to cross with a rope before he was nailed?

Think, if the average weight of a person is 160 lb then even 8 nails hit to limbs of a man cannot hold a body in position. I think at least 2 nails need to be hit in the Abdomen area. Please explain the exact position of the nails. I think it cannot be held with nails alone.





Also when blood touches the nail on its way into the wood it looses its friction capacity.Was Jesus tied on to cross with a rope before he was nailed?
Many modern depictions of the Crucifixion show the arms supported by ropes. The nails were probably a way to cause pain and bleeding, since the real struggle here is against asphyxiation.Was Jesus tied on to cross with a rope before he was nailed?
In order to support the weight of the body , nails would have to have been driven through just above the wrists between the two bones in the forearm (the radius and the ulna) or through the actual wrists betwen the four carpal bones. The greek word used for hands in the scriptures would often refer to anything below the mid-forearm, such as in Acts 12:7 when it refers to chains falling off of Peter's hands, but the chains in order to bind Peter would have been around Peter's wrists.
The Passion of the Christ is absolute truth regarding the method of Jesus' crucifixion. Mel Gibson was there. That was a documentary, shot in real time.
Historically, sometimes people were tied to the crosses. Jesus may have even been tied for some support.





However, these nails weren't little '10-penny nails.' These were more like railroad spikes, with large heads, which would keep a person from sliding off, even when lubricated by blood.





They would have been driven through the wrists, through the carpal tunnel and between the metatarsal bones in the feet. This would have been more than enough to support a man long enough to die. These were strong bone and tendon structures.





(And before anybody says anything about the hands vs. the wrists, the Greek word used applies to everything from the fingertips to the middle of the forearm. Even today, we use handcuffs to secure a prisoner, not 'wrist-cuffs.')
We've been taught (by man) to believe without question. God said that if we lack wisdom ask for it and he would supply it. You are probably right in thinking that the weight would be too great for only nails to hold a body. We've been told that the nails were placed in the palms of the hand and the top of the foot. Some are now saying that the nails may have been in his wrists and ankle areas. We have to accept the answers that we are given but that doesn't mean that we have to believe what we are told. We do need to remember that the nails didn't go through the bone. One of the prophecies was that his bones were not broken!





Some believe that the nails were bradded or bent over once they went through the wood. That would have prevented them from pulling out because of Christ's weight. Then again...It wasn't God's will that He fall from the cross. If he could have called legions of angles to take him from the cross then straight pins could have held him there if he had willed it.
jesus was severely beaten before he was tied to the cross.he became very weak while he was going to golgotha.so his body weight decreased very fast.so, since he lost most of his blood,it is given in the bible that water also stated to come from his abdomen when striked with a spear....this gives the explanation to your question....nice curiosity..........
I think you're forgetting that these nails were probably more like big wooden spikes.
He was supposed to be standing on a plank on the cross from what I understand. Either way, it is certainly not a good way to die.
this sounds like s%26amp;m activity.





i don't know what and how they did it. i can't see how hands can hold the weight even if they're tied up real good.





i figured they used the wrists now those can hold body weight.





but then again there's experts..... i suppose who were there to eyewitness it.
Jesus came as the Second Adam, so this sort of macabre detail may not be worth knowing. John the Baptist could not even follow him as a faithless Israel acted on their doubt that he was who he said he was. Think about what will be done to him upon the promised return - many will be curious about such detail. Perhaps we have not actually left the Dark Ages at all.
no, but his feet were
I was not there but the Cross was not as it is pictured either. But I imagine they might have been tied before the nailing. That's what I would do if I wanted them to be still, long enough to drive a Nail in the.'; WOW'; that would hurt.
The nails (which were the size of railroad stakes) were pierced into his wrists (just below the palm) and his arms stretched out. The third nail was pierced into his feet (just above the heel). The nails in his arms would have been sufficient enough to hold his weight and keep him in place.





So Jesus was not tied to the cross with rope.
he was tied to it at the wrists and ankles. I do not know if this was before or after the nails, but it was before the cross was raised into an upright position.





nails alone (or big spikes) would tear through the skin.
No. At least the Scripture gives no account of Him being tied down. The spikes were driven through each wrist because driving it into the hands wouldn't support His weight once the Cross was dropped into the ground. The spikes would rip right through the tendons and he would've fallen off. The other spike was driven into a block of wood nailed to the Cross beneath His feet which were placed one on top of the other so that BOTH feet would be anchored to this block of wood by this huge spike. This way when his body weight began to sag and make it hard to breathe, he would have to strain in agony against that block to push Himself up long enough to take a breath. These weren't 16 penny nails they were using; these were long iron spikes designed for such a task.
nope,no idea.
Nah, they used Velcro.
It's a made up story as part of a fairy tale.





However,, if any part of it were true, rope would have needed to be used.
nope
he was nailed with huge nails not normal that u use to stick two wood together. the nails that they use where a little bigger then wine cork. they nailed his two hands and the feet together on another wood( the wood is around 50 digress, that will hold Ur feet) witch is attached to the cross nailed too. well some say he was tied and some say he was held by guards


its ain't a pretty sign :(

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