Should Christians have themselves nailed to crosses to prove their devotion to their belief?

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Crazy or what.





Would you though to prove your devotion? After all you say you would do anything to please your god.Should Christians have themselves nailed to crosses to prove their devotion to their belief?
I'm gonna go get a hammer and help some of em get a little more devoted!Should Christians have themselves nailed to crosses to prove their devotion to their belief?
No, they ought not to do that.





You must really hate us if you are advocating that we all nail ourselves on a cross to show devotion.





Jesus did that so we would not have to go through it.








Have a good day. Sorry to disappoint you, but I won't do that.





I don't need to. God knows I love Him. He does not ask me to prove it.
No. Christ did that so we don't have to. Jesus said, If you love me, keep my commandments. The best way to prove our devotion to him is to follow his teachings.
That sort of display is idolatrous and a vestige of pagan orgiastic practices. It is not appropriate at all for Christians. It is excessive.
i what to ask u a question how would u feel if one of your dearest friends was executed on the basis of false charges would you make a replica of the instrument of execution would you cherish it or would you shun it so in the same way we shouldn't wear objects around our neck to remind us about jc
It does amaze me how far they go, I am still shocked that so many of them on these boards hold so much hate for gay folks, in the year 2008. For followers of peace loving Jesus, its beyond words what festering notions they subscribe to.





Sorry Guys but they are Christians, just like you, they believe in JC, just like you, they are under the same religious flag as you. Or is it, real Christians versus non real Christians now?


How does that work? More exclusion based upon people not believing in what you do?
If they did this they would be not doing anything that would please God. Jesus Christ sacrafice for us was done once for all time. We only need to excersise faith in that sacrafice. John 3:16 And we do this by how we live our lives and treat others, not by making a crazy display of things that would attract attention to ourselves, not Christ. Matthew 6th chapter
only if he wants us to.
Jesus! That's awful God wouldn't be happy at all with what these people are doing to themselves
This is a good question and I will try my best to give you my views on it.





Let's look for a moment at the 1997 movie - The 7th Sign that starred Demi Moore. The base of the movie is that the seals described in Revelations have been broken and the prophecies have begun and only one woman (Demi Moore) can stop the end coming to our world. She is repeatedly asked throughout the movie - ';Would you die for me?';





While that is a Hollywood based movie, the question itself is interesting - ';Would you die for me?';





There are areas in the world where they do reenact the crucifixion of Jesus as a show of faith; however it is not a fatal crucifixion. Rather, they use it as a way to show God that they would go to death for Jesus. If you do enough web searching, you'll even find one man who vowed to be crucified every year for 15 years if God allowed his wife to come through a difficult child birth.





Your question was would we do this also to show our faith to the Lord.





Personally, I have a strong walk with the Lord, I live my life to the very best that I can possibly live it to on a daily basis with the Lord. Am I going to make mistakes along the way? Certainly... I'm human and all humans make mistakes. However, do I need to be nailed to a cross to show the Lord my faith in Him and devotion to Him? That answer would be no.





Jesus died on the cross for all of mankind - God loved us so much that he sacrificed His own Son for the sins of the world and that if anyone believed in Him, would have everlasting life and not die. Obviously our physical body will die but God was referring to our souls to live on. The Bible tells about how our bodies are merely a temple to carry the soul and that we should not defile it in any way.





In my eyes, there is no reason that anyone should have to be nailed to a cross to show their devotion to God. It's a radical move of extremisms and allowing superstitions to intercede with a message for all of us that God gave..... Believe in my Son and you shall not die. To believe in my Son is to believe in God.





Living here in this physical form, we face persecution each and every day by someone. It could be a stranger, a family member, a co-worker, etc. Regardless, it is up to each of us to live the way Christ would want us to live and to carry that way of life through every aspect of our lives... not just on a Sunday.





Those who have believed in the one God of heaven and earth have continually been persecuted by rulers and kings since time began. However, when we speak of early Christian persecution, we are referring to the time following Jesus Christ's suffering and persecution for His Church - His death on the cross. He paid the price for all of our sins, He was spat upon, beaten beyond recognition, humiliated, and finally nailed to a cross like a hardened criminal until He died. After three days, He rose again and even now, He lives and is the right hand of God the Father where He rules and reigns with Him.





Early Christians who were persecuted for Christ:





* James the Great, the elder brother of John the Apostle, was beheaded in A.D. 44.





* Philip, who served in Upper Asia was scourged in Phrygia, thrown into prison and later crucified (A.D. 54).





* Matthew the tax collector served the Lord in Parthia and Ethiopia where he was slain with a halberd (a shafted weapon with an axe-like cutting blade and a speared end) in the city of Nadabah, A.D. 60.





* James the Less, the brother of the Lord, served the church in Jerusalem and wrote the book of James. He suffered martyrdom at the age of ninety-four by being beaten and stoned by the Jews.





* Matthias, the man who was chosen to replace Judas as an apostle, was stoned at Jerusalem and then beheaded.





* Andrew, the brother of Peter, preached the gospel to many Asiatic nations and was crucified on a cross at Edessa. The ends of his cross were fixed transversely in the ground, thus the derivation of the term, St. Andrew's cross.





* Mark was converted to Christianity by Peter and served as amanuensis (he wrote for Peter). He was dragged to pieces by the people of Alexandria.





* Peter, the apostle, was sought by Nero to be put to death. Jerome wrote that Peter was crucified with his head down and his feet up, because he thought himself unworthy to be crucified in the same form and manner as the Lord.





* Paul was really persecuted several times. He was scourged, stoned, and finally, Nero had him beheaded by a sword.





* Jude, the brother of James, commonly called Thaddeus, was crucified at Edessa in A.D. 72.





* Bartholomew preached in several countries and translated the Gospel of Matthew into the language of India. He was cruelly beaten and then crucified by in patient idolaters.





* Thomas, doubting Thomas, preached the Gospel in Parthia and India. He excited the rage of the pagan priests and was martyred by being thrust through with a spear.





* Luke the author of Luke and Acts travelled with Paul through various countries and was suppose to have been hanged on and olive tree by the idolatrous priests of Greece.





* Simon the Zealot preached the Gospel in Mauritania, Africa, and even Britain where he was crucified in A.D. 74.





* John, the Apostle whom Jesus loved, was sent from Ephesus to Rome where he was put into a cauldron of boiling oil. He escaped by a miracle, without injury, but was then banished to the Isle of Patmos and there he wrote the book of Revelations. Nerva, Domitian's successor, said he was the only apostle who escaped a violent death.





What it boils down to is - Do you believe in God? Do you accept Jesus as your Saviour? Do you choose to change your life to walk and breathe what Jesus taught? Do you choose to grow with God spiritually and not just on a religious plane?





We are all listed in the Book of Life. When our physical bodies die and we go home to God, we will stand before Him at that time as he reads our page in that Book of Life. What each person needs to think about is, where do we stand with God and have we tried to right the wrongs of our worldly stay and accepted Jesus as our personal Lord and Savior believing that Jesus died for all of our sins and the only requirement to everlasting life is simply to believe in Jesus and ask His forgiveness.





Is there a necessity for being nailed to the cross to prove to God how you feel? No. Showing God what you believe and how you feel about Him is proven by how we walk through our lives while here on earth.





Sorry for being so lengthy... I just wanted to help you understand.





God Bless and have a wonderful day.
Most Christians know that where it says to take up your cross and follow me was not meant to be taken literally. These poor deluded people were convinced that if they did this it would be pleasing to God and/or they just wanted to die in the same manner as Christ so as to experience his agony. They are so wrong. This is just another example of how Christianity has been twisted and distorted from its original meaning.
A 15 Years old kid!!!??? Wow... who said that BDSM is illegal in the Filipines???
Why is it so upsetting for you christians to see a display of self immolation?





ISNT THIS FILLIPINO FOLLOWING EXACTLY YOUR OWN SELF HARMING GOD?





how can you recognise one as idolatry and the other as an act of supreme love?
YES That would be awesome, send all the christians to ';heaven'; and it will be one less thing to fight over, seriously all they do is try and convert people so, us atheist wont ***** about that anymore.
No. Jesus does not ask us to do that. He already did that for us.
Absolutely not, because Jesus already sacrificed his life and died for us. No more blood needs be shed. We are redeemed. Bible says that God doesn't want sacrifice, but a contrite heart. Besides there are many other ways we can show and prove our devotion to God.
No.





Like the Jews and the Muslims, Christians believe that devotion is not proven by a single act or deed, but by the sum total of one's life.





Displays such as having oneself nailed to a cross in a procession prove nothing about one's devotion - except that they create a spectacle.