Saturday, January 23, 2010

Are we still under the Mosaic laws? I have heard the commandments were nailed to the cross too. Which is it?

Galatians 3:11 (NKJV)


But that no one is justified by the law in the sight of God is evident, for ';the just shall live by faith.';





No. We are not under the Mosaic laws. Christ has set us free from the law.





With the law comes a curse. The 10 commandments are not a guide for Christians to follow. Why? Because they are impossible to follow. No one can keep them. We need a Savior...one that was able to keep them. That is Jesus.





Whew....that means I can sin, sin, sin, and still be a Christian...right?





Nope...





1 Thes. 4:7-8 (NKJV)


For God did not call us to uncleanness, but in holiness. [8] Therefore he who rejects this does not reject man, but God, who has also given us His Holy Spirit.





Galatians 3:13 (NKJV)


Christ has redeemed us from the curse of the law, having become a curse for us (for it is written, ';Cursed is everyone who hangs on a tree';),








Galatians 3:24-25 (NKJV)


Therefore the law was our tutor to bring us to Christ, that we might be justified by faith. [25] But after faith has come, we are no longer under a tutor.








Galatians 4:21 (NKJV)


Tell me, you who desire to be under the law, do you not hear the law?





---Do you really understand the Law? If you did, you would know it means death to everyone because they can't obey it.





We are free from the law...yet we now have a new master...Jesus Christ himself. So, stand firm in your freedom..but do not return to the law...which is bondage.








Galatians 5:1 (NKJV)


Stand fast therefore in the liberty by which Christ has made us free, and do not be entangled again with a yoke of bondage.





AND don't use your freedom to sin. That is forbidden.





Blessings.Are we still under the Mosaic laws? I have heard the commandments were nailed to the cross too. Which is it?
Are you an observant Jew? If you are, then yes, you are still under the Mosaic Laws.





If you are not, you never were:





Act 15:28 For it seemed good to the Holy Ghost, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things;


Act 15:29 That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well.Are we still under the Mosaic laws? I have heard the commandments were nailed to the cross too. Which is it?
They nailed a fake messiah to the cross. Commandments were made up by Moses. They aren't all that different from actual morality, though. Just a bit incomplete and with some weird stuff added in.





The Christians claim that Jesus' ';sacrifice'; made many of the OT ';laws'; obsolete... like some of the ones in Leviticus. (shellfish is okay now, but gayness is still the devil)
The Mosaic law is the old covenant. Like any such covenant that has parties to it, it ends upon the death of either party.





God died in the personage of Jesus Christ.





If one were a Jew who became a Christian, they die to that covenant through baptism. See Romans 6-7.





This law does not define sin for a Christian. I John 3:4 in the kJV is a poor translation.





A Christian is dead to the law, and dead to sin. As such, neither has any power or control over the true Christian.





Paul warns Christians not to allow themselves to be tricked into being brought back under the bondage of the law in Galatians 4-5. Those who desire to bring you under the law are VERY clever in how they market the law to people who are not well versed in the Scriptures.





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If you're an observant Jew, then yes, you are definitely still under the Mosaic Laws.





If you are a Christian, then you have another set, in addition to the Ten Commandments, that is.





No, they were not nailed to the Cross with Christ. The tablet above His head read: INRI, or Iesus Nazoreum, Rex Judoreum, that is, Jesus of Nazareth King of the Jews; a sarcastic explanation of why he was crucified ordered put there by Pontius Pilate who was disgusted with the Jewish leadership for their insistence, to the point of blackmail, on having this Man put to death.
Christians most definitely are still under the law. Jesus said so...





Mt 5:17
Romans 8:2-4. For the law of the life-giving Spirit in Christ Jesus has set you free from the law of sin and death. 3 For God achieved what the law could not do because it was weakened through the flesh. By sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and concerning sin, he condemned sin in the flesh, 4 so that the righteous requirement of the law may be fulfilled in us, who do not walk according to the flesh but according to the Spirit.





Several passages of Scripture clearly establish that the coming of Christ has brought an end to the Mosaic Law. Paul specifically states that “Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes” (Rom. 10:4). This instituted a new law or principle of life, i.e., the law of the Spirit, the one of liberty and grace (Rom. 8:2, 13). This fact was also clearly settled by the Jerusalem Council in Acts 15. A council was convened in the church at Jerusalem to look into the issue of the Law and its place in the life of believers because some were saying “Unless you are circumcised according to the custom of Moses, you cannot be saved,” and because even certain of the Pharisees who had believed were also saying “It is necessary to circumcise the Gentiles and to order them to observe the law of Moses.” The conclusion of the council, consisting of apostles and elders, was to reject the concept of placing New Testament believers under the yoke of the Law (15:6-11). The only thing the Jerusalem Council asked was that Gentile believers control their liberty in matters that might be offensive to Jewish believers, but they did not seek to place the believers under the yoke of the Law for they realized the Law had come to an end.
the Ten Commandments and the dietary laws are still very much in effect.....





Jesus came to fulfill the law....the sacrificial laws and sacrificial Sabbaths were nailed to the cross because Jesus fulfilled these laws...





Yes we are under grace.....the Ten Commandments are still laws of God for man, the dietary laws are still laws for man....





there is no ';Jewish'; laws or things...eating that which is clean and unclean...we all have the same tummy....








Do not eat that which is unclean.....





read your Bible closely and you will find the truth....
We now live under Grace, not the law.





Christ's sacrifice paid the price for our sins, and it we simply accept him as our Lord and Savior, then we live under his Grace.





It is important to note that if you truly have accepted Christ, you will no longer want to do anything that it tells you not to do under the Law. You will be a new creature with a new nature that wants to live your live as he leads you.
In a word, No.





A little more explanation -The Mosaic law was fulfilled in Jesus Christ.





The Mosaic law in force at the time of Jesus’ ministry was not rejected by the Savior. To a young man who came to him, and who claimed that he observed all the laws of Moses, Jesus said, “If thou wilt be perfect … follow me.” (Matt. 19:21.) Perfection lay not in forsaking the law of Moses, nor in following it only, but in embracing the higher principles of the gospel that superseded temporal law.





Jesus’ frequent rebuke of the religious leaders of his day consisted not in showing them that their observances had become outdated with his advent or that they were no longer binding. His dispute with the Scribes and Pharisees stemmed from the fact that they insisted on the meticulous performance of temporal laws such as ritual cleanliness, while the weighty laws of love of God and of neighbor remained largely unobserved. Jesus said: “These ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.” (Matt. 23:23.) A Jewish tradition states that it was because of hate between brethren that the temple was destroyed by the Romans in a.d. 70, in spite of the fact that the Jews of the time were very learned.





Jewish religious learning had regressed into the cold dissection and scrutiny of the letter of the law, while the Spirit of God was denied. The admonition of Jesus that “The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath” (Mark 2:27) provides a clear example of the spiritual state of the Jews of his time. This was an admonition that might have been applied to the whole law as well as to the Sabbath.





Jesus observed Jewish customs as well as those commandments in the Mosaic code that were part of the higher law. The atonement of Christ ended the necessity of those performances and ordinances of the Mosaic law that prefigured his sacrifice. Other parts of the law, including the Ten Commandments and precepts such as tithing, remained in effect because they were actually a part of the higher law of the gospel.





Several Mosaic practices such as baptism in water were also contained in the gospel. Strict laws governing hygiene, clean foods, and family and social relationships were neither abrogated by Christ nor abandoned by his Jewish disciples. Rather, ritualistic observance naturally lost its significance as men born of the Spirit would be presumed to keep themselves clean, physically as well as spiritually.





The Savior’s teachings were often in conflict with the Law of Moses, as he sought to restore truths to Israel that it had formerly rejected. The gospel was offered to the children of Israel while in the wilderness, but when they rejected it, the Law of Moses was given instead. Paul said that the gospel was once made available to Israel at Mount Sinai but that it was not “mixed with faith in them that heard it.” (Heb. 4:2.) This is corroborated by a Jewish tradition that explains that a higher law was rejected by Israel at Sinai and that the priesthood was at that time taken from all tribes except the Levites.





The ministry of Jesus was complex. His rejection by the leaders of the Jews made possible his primary mission on earth—the Atonement. Jesus was not a reformer; he was a restorer. The Jewish nation had lost the higher Priesthood and the higher ordinances and covenants. Jesus restored these things in the establishment of the church in the meridian of time. Since the Jews rejected Jesus, these teachings of the higher law were not adopted, except by a minority of Jews. As a result, the prominence given in the gospel to the spirit of the law, as exemplified by the parables and beatitudes of Jesus, was never incorporated into Judaism.
That depends who you ask I guess. There's only one law anyhow- love each other. That means no condemning, judging or sending anyone to hell because they don't agree with your beliefs.

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