Saturday, January 23, 2010

If The Ten Commandments have been abolished or Jesus nailed them to the cross, then how could?

a perfect God (Matthew 5:48) do away with a perfect Law? Psalms 19:7.


How could a Holy God (Isaiah 6:3) do away with a Holy Law? Romans 7:12.


How could a Righteous God (Psalms 145:17) do away with a Righteous Law? Psalms 119:172.


How could God who is unchangeable (Malachi 3:6; Hebrews 13:8) change or do away with a Law that is unchangeable? Matthew 5:17-19; Psalms 111:7-8.


How could a God of Truth (John 14:6) abolish a Law that is the Truth? Psalms 119:142, 151.


How could a God who is Just (Acts 3:14; Deuteronomy 32:4) abolish a just Law? Romans 7:12.


How could a God who is Good (Psalms 34:8) abolish a Law that is good? Romans 7:12.


How could a Spiritual God (John 4:24) do away with a spiritual Law? Romans 7:14.


How could God do away with the Law that tells what sin is? 1 John 3:4; Romans 4:15; Romans 7:7.


How could God do away with the very Law that Christ came to magnify and make honourable? Isaiah 42:21.


How could God abolish a Law which He wrote on stone? Exodus 31:18. The fact that He wrote it on stone indicates that it was to last forever.


How could God do away with the Law which tells what His will is? Romans 2:18; Matthew 7:21; Psalms 40:8.


How could God do away with the very Law that He commanded to be sealed among His disciples? Isaiah 8:16.


How could God abolish the Law that is not made void, but by the Christian’s Faith? Romans 3:31.


How could God do away with a Law that is “pure” and that “enlightens the eyes?” Psalms 19:8.


How could God abolish the Law that He told His people to remember and teach to their children and children’s children? Psalms 78:1-7.


How could God do away with the Law that the Christian should “meditate in day and night.” Psalms 1:1-3.


How could God abolish His holy Law that the wicked have turned away from and made void? Psalms 119:126, 150.


How could God do away with His Law which must be fulfilled in the life of the Christian who is led by the Spirit of God? Romans 8:3-4.


How could God do away with His Law after promising a “woe” upon them that “cast away the Law of the Lord” and “call evil good, and good evil?” Isaiah 5:20-24.


How could God abolish a Law that enters into the very heart of an individual and condemns the secret sins of his life which he must in the judgement? Ecclesiastes 12:13-14.


How could God do away with His Law that makes people happy when they keep it? Proverbs 29:18.


How could a God of Peace destroy a Law that brings peace to troubled hearts? Psalms 119:165.


How could God abolish the very Law that Jesus has in His heart? Psalms 40:8.


How could God abolish His Law which is to be the standard by which men and women will be judged? Ecclesiastes 12:13-14.


How could God do away with His Law which is to “stand fast forever?” Psalms 111:7-8.


How could God do away with His Law after He said His people have forgotten His Law and are destroyed for lack of knowledge? Hosea 4:6-7.


How could God abolish His Law after accusing the religious leaders of hardening their hearts against His Law, and deceiving the people? Malachi 2:7-9.


How could God abolish His Ten Commandments when Jesus promised the Holy Spirit to those who would keep them? John 14:16-17, 26; Acts 5:32.


How could God have done away with His Law at Christ’s death, and then later be with Stephen as he was stoned for having told his murderers that they had not kept God’s Law? Acts 7:53-56.


How could God abolish the same Law that is to be the standard by which we measure the teachings of every teacher, and every preacher, and every church? Isaiah 8:20, Compare 1 Peter 4:11 and Acts 7:38.


How could God abolish the Law when Jesus suffered and died to redeem us from the curse of the Law? Galatians 3:13. Jesus came to redeem them that were under the Law. Galatians 4:4-5.


How could God abolish His Law when the Bible says “Where no Law is, there is no transgression?” Romans 4:15; Romans 5:13.


How could God do away with His Law when His followers delight in it? Psalms 1:1-3; Psalms 119:70, 77, 92, 174.


How could God have the Ten Commandments abolished at the cross when Jesus told His disciples to pray that they might be able to keep the Sabbath command forty years after the crucifixion? Matthew 24:20.


How could God abolish the commandment that says, “Remember the Sabbath day to keep it holy,” when Jesus said that He Himself was Lord of the Sabbath, and that it was made for man? Mark 2:27-28.


How could God do away with the very Law that helps in converting the soul? Psalms 19:7.


How could God abolish the Law that helps a sinner to realise his need? When a sinner realises that death is the penalty for transgression, and in sorrow he comes to God for forgiveness, he receives a pardon through Jesus. That pardon is Grace. Would God abolish the very Law that Christ died for to make it possible to give grace to the sinner? If God abolished His Law there would be no transgression and therefore no need of forgiveness or grace. Grace is not something apart from the Law; it is necessary. Paul said to the Christians: “you are not under the law but under grace.” Romans 6:14. Then he said, “shall we sin because we are not under the law but under grace? God forbid.” Verse 15. In Galatians 3:21 Paul says “the law is not against the promises of God.” How could God abolish His Law and thus do away with Grace too?


How could God abolish the Sabbath command when Jesus said He Himself was Lord of the Sabbath? Mark 2:27-28. And Jesus Himself made the Sabbath. John 1:1-3; Mark 2:27. And it was Christ’s custom to keep it. Luke 4:16.


How could Christ abolish His Law and the Sabbath that He made and not say a single word about it to His closest followers? At the same time of His death they kept the Sabbath according to the Commandment. Luke 23:55-56. Compare Matthew 24:20.


How could God abolish the Sabbath when Jesus said: “It is easier for Heaven and earth to pass, than one tittle of the Law to fail?” Luke 16:17.


How could God abolish His Commandments when Jesus said that those who worship in vain have the commandments of men? Mark 7:7, 9. The worship which is accepted of God must be where the Ten Commandments of God are taught and obeyed. John 14:21.


How could God forsake His Law when that is the very thing that the Bible says the wicked have done? Psalms 119:53.


How could God do away with His Law when the Bible says, “The way of transgressors is hard?” Proverbs 13:15. Where there is no law there is no transgression. Romans 4:15.


How could God do away with His Law when the Bible says, “He that turns away his ear from hearing the law, even his prayer shall be an abomination?” Proverbs 28:9.


How could God do away with His Commandments when the Bible says, “The whole duty of man is to fear God and keep His Commandments.” Ecclesiastes 12:13-14.


How could God do away with His Commandments after He promised to show mercy to all who would keep them? Psalms 103:18.


How could God abolish the Ten Commandments that the angels keep? Psalms 103:20.


How could God do away with His Law which is so perfect and high that it points the believer to Christ as the end for righteousness-the very highest standard of a perfect sinless life? Romans 10:4. Compare Isaiah 51:7 and James 5:11.


How could God abolish His Law which gives comfort in affliction and trial? Psalms 119:92


How could God do away with His Law which gives wisdom and understanding? Psalms 119:98, 100.


How could God do away with the very Law that the Righteous, who inherit the New Earth, will have in their hearts? Psalms 37:29-31.


How could God do away with the Law that Jesus said was more enduring than the earth itself? Matthew 5:17-19; Luke 16:17.


How could God do away with the Law that forbids murder and adultery? James 2:10-12.


How could God abolish the Ten Commandments that Jesus kept? John 15:10.


How could God abolish a Law which is so perfect and wonderful that even if you break any part of it, you are guilty of all? James 2:10-12.


How could God abolish the Law that Jesus referred to when He said: “Whosoever shall break one of these least Commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least [by those] in the kingdom?” Matthew 5:19.


How could God abolish His Commandment in order to make room for Tradition-the commandments of men? Matthew 15:3, 6, 9.


How could God abolish His Law which gives His people liberty when they obey it? James 2:10-12. It is the lawbreaker who is put in Jail and who is in bondage.


How could God do away with the Law that helps a poor sinner to realise his condition? Romans 3:20; Romans 3:9, 23.


How could God do away with the Law that “stops every mouth” and makes “all the world guilty before God?” Romans 3:19. Compare Romans 3:9, 23.


How could God do away with the Law that tells what sin is when the Bible says: “If any man sin we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the Righteous?” 1 John 3:4 and 1 John 2:1. Why have an advocate if the law is gone?


How could God abolish the Ten Commandments, or Moral Law, at the same time that He abolished the ceremonial law which had to do with the offerings and sacrifices? Ephesians 2:15; Colossians 2:14-17. The Hand writing of Ordinances are not the Ten Commandments. The ceremonial law was instituted to show the people what to do when they broke the Moral Law. By their sacrifices they could show their faith in the great sacrifice which was to be offered on Calvary. All the Sacrifices and offerings pointed forward to Christ. When Jesus died the veil in the temple was rent signifying that the sacrificial or Ceremonial law had ended. Many people confuse the Ceremonial and Moral laws.


How could God abolish the Law that has the Sabbath command in it when God Himself ceased from labour and rested on the seventh day, and your Bible says that all who have entered into rest (spiritual rest too) with Him, have ceased from their own works as God did from His? Hebrews 4:4, 9-10. Read and re-read those two verses.


How could God do away with the very Law that His people are to keep in order to have works to show their faith? James 2:18. Read carefully James 2:10-12. The “works” here referred to are works of obedience as the verses plainly indicate. Paul says: “Do we make void the Law through faith? God forbid, we establish the Law.” Romans 3:31.


How could God do away with the Ten Commandments that Jesus referred to when He said “whosoever shall do and teach them shall be called great in the Kingdom of Heaven?” Matthew 5:19.


How could God abolish the same Law that He promised to write in the heart of every Christian who is really under the New Covenant? Jeremiah 31:31; Hebrews 8:10.


How could God abolish His Law when only those who keep it can have justification? Romans 2:13.


How could God abolish the Law that the carnal of sinful mind refuses to obey? Romans 8:7.


How could God destroy the very same Law that Jesus said He came not to destroy? Matthew 5:17-19.


How could God do away with the Ten Commandments, the same Ten Commandments that Jesus said hung on the two Great Commandments of Love to God and Love to Man? Matthew 22:35-40. The first four Commandments show our relation to God; the last six show our relation to Man. Thus they all hang on the two principles of love to God and to man.


How could God do away with the same Commandments that Jesus told the young ruler to keep if he wanted to enter into life and be saved? Matthew 19:17. Compare Revelation 22:14.


How could God abolish His Commandments when they give a good understanding to all who keep them? Psalms 111:10.


How could God do away with His Commandments which are the foundation of sound doctrine? Proverbs 4:2.


How could God make void His Law when Jesus condemned the Scribes and Pharisees for making void the Law of God by their tradition? Matthew 15:3, 6, 9.


How could God do away with His Commandments when Jesus told His disciples to keep them if they loved Him? John 14:15. How much do we love Him?


How could God have abolished His Law when the curse of God rests upon the world because the inhabitants have transgressed His Law? Isaiah 24:3-6.


How could God abolish the Sabbath commandment when He pronounced a blessing upon the man who would keep the Sabbath? Isaiah 56:2, 6.


How could God abolish the Sabbath commandment when He said that all who would take their foot off of the Sabbath, would be blessed in many ways, and would help to raise the foundations of generations, and be called to repairer of the breach? Isaiah 58:12-14.


How could God abolish the Sabbath Commandment when Jesus said that He Himself was LORD of the Sabbath? Matthew 12:8.


How could God abolish the Sabbath commandment when He said the Sabbath was a sign of sanctification? Ezekiel 20:12. Should not a sanctified Sabbath and a sanctified person he in harmony?


How could God turn away from His Law and abolish it when He has always been hurt when His people turned away from it? Jeremiah 16:10-11, 16; Isaiah 58:1, 12-14.


How could God reject His Law and abolish it when He said He would bring evil upon those who rejected it? Jeremiah 6:19. Compare Jeremiah 6:4-5.


How could God abolish the very Law that He says He has implanted in the hearts of those who “know Righteousness?” Isaiah 51:7.


How could God abolish His Law that some people “will not hear” and even tell their ministers not to preach? Isaiah 30:8-10. God calls them rebellious children.


How could God do away with His Commandments after promising peace and righteousness in abundance to those who “listened to His Commandments?” Isaiah 48:18.


How could God abolish the Sabbath Commandment when He gave the Sabbath to be a sign that He is our God? Ezekiel 20:20; Exodus 31:16-17. The New Covenant was made with the children of Israel which if we be Christ’s then we are. Hebrews 8:10. He is not a Jew which is one outwardly, but he is a Jew who is one inwardly and so if we are God’s children then we are Abraham’s seed and therefore children of Israel and heirs according to the promise. Romans 2:28-29; Galatians 3:28-29.


How could God abolish His Commandments which are called righteousness, Psalms 119:172 and also, “My Righteousness shall not be abolished?” Isaiah 51:6. He also said, “Listen unto me you that know righteousness, the people in whose heart is My Law.” Isaiah 51:7.


How could God abolish His Law after making the statement that some of the people would stop their ears and make their hearts like stone so they would not hear His Law? Zechariah 7:11-12.


How could God do away with His Law after making the statement that the people have trespassed against His Law, and have “sown the wind and shall reap the whirlwind?” Hosea 8:1-7.


How could God abolish the Ten Commandments which are the test by which we know that we know God? 1 John 2:3.


How could God abolish His Commandments and then later have John write that the man who claims to know God and does not keep God’s Commandments, is a liar? 1 John 2:4.


How could God abolish His Commandments, when Jesus kept them and we are told “to walk even as He walked?” 1 John 2:6.


How could God abolish His Commandments and also promise to hear the prayers of those who keep His Commandments? 1 John 3:22.


How could God abolish His Commandments and later have John write that those who love God and keep His Commandments will love the children of God? 1 John 5:2.


How could God have His Commandments abolished when it “is the love of God that we keep, His Commandments?” 1 John 5:3. Compare 2 John 1:6, and John 14:15.


How could God abolish His Law and the Sabbath after He says the “Priests have violated His Law and have hid their eyes from His Sabbath, and have showed no difference between the holy and the profane?” Ezekiel 22:26.


How could anyone accuse God of changing or abolishing His own perfect Law when the Prophet saw a PERSECUTING POWER that would think to change it? Daniel 7:25. Read about the four beasts and the little “horn.” Daniel 7:1-8. Read verse 23-fourth kingdom (Rome). The Little horn represents a religious power that started in Rome and in 321AD they changed God’s Sabbath to Sunday. A fact unknown by many Christians today. Now read verse 25 again.


How could God have abolished His Commandments when it says that the last or remnant people of God will be keeping the Ten Commandments just before Jesus comes to gather the harvest of the earth? Read carefully Revelation 12:17 and Revelation 14:12-16.


How could God abolish His Commandments and also promise that in the New Earth His People will be keeping the Sabbath? Isaiah 66:22-23. The Sabbath Command is in the centre of His Law. The Sabbath is God’s Mark or Sign of His Power and authority as the Creator. Exodus 20:8-11. The Sabbath has always been God’s test of obedience. Exodus 16:4, 23, 26-28. God’s Law is in His Heart. May we never wound His heart of love and insult His Grace. If God has abolished His Law then hundreds of texts in your Bible become meaningless and should be left out, for example:


All the texts that mention or refer to the Law.


All the texts that mention the Commandments of God.


All the texts that speak of SIN. (Sin is the transgression of the Law. 1 John 3:4).


All the texts that speak of obedience.


All the texts that speak of transgression.


All the texts that speak of repentance.


All the texts that speak of Jesus as the Saviour from sin. etc, etc.


If God has abolished any part of His Law then texts that speak of The Law as Perfect, Holy, Unchangeable, etc., become meaningless. “Not one tittle of the Law shall fall.” If we offend in one point of the Ten Commandments we are guilty of all. See James 2:10-12 and Matthew 5:17-19.If The Ten Commandments have been abolished or Jesus nailed them to the cross, then how could?
Wow, you have alot of time on your hands to write that.





Jesus Christ did not do away with the law; not even close.





3 parts to the law; Morality, Civility %26amp; Sacrifice. Jesus was THE sacrifice once and for all but morality %26amp; civility are still in play.





Jesus simply took the 10 commandments %26amp; brought them down to 2 [known as the Golden Rule]





36';Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?'; 37Jesus replied: '; 'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.'[a] 38This is the first and greatest commandment. 39And the second is like it: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.'[b] 40All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.';





Matthew 26.





Loving God %26amp; People inculdes the other 8; if you love God you'll keep His commands. Not coveting, murdering etc etc





The law is still in play %26amp; more so... now we can't just commit adultery, we can't commit it in our hearts either. Everything hangs on those two.





The law is still in play; we just have grace now also, [not law vs grace as many think]If The Ten Commandments have been abolished or Jesus nailed them to the cross, then how could?
The law is a mirror it tellss you where you stand before Our Maker.It does not save you. For all sinners have brocken the law. .

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All Jesus did was sum up all Ten Commandments together.. When you follow both of these Commandments then you obey all Ten Commandments. If you love the Lord your God..


These Commandments were never removed, replaced, nor will they ever be.. (Luke 16:17)

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what do you honestly expect pple to read that phrase that better
Ah... the shotgun approach. I'm supposed to address each one of these, and all that you have to do is conclude I am wrong by your own standard, thereby doing away with everything.





So I'll just ask you one question for you to answer.





Can you be held to the conditions of a covenant / contract you were never a party to?





No, you can't.





And never mind what was concluded in Acts 15, you are greater than the original apostles.





Much of what you wrote shows your confusion over the law of Moses and the actual law of God as brought out by the apostle Paul in Romans 7 and 8. The law of the Spirit is what is perfect and eternal. The law of the letter was flawed, according to Hebrews 8. A good example is Mt. 19 and the issue over divorce as found in the law, that was a concession because of the hardness of their hearts. But in the beginning, IT WAS NOT SO.





But if you want to live by the law, by all means do so. Keep every point of law, and don't forget-- if you break even one point, you are guilty of all, and you can't sacrifice Christ daily.





You are under a curse, and your chances of getting out from under that curse is not very likely.





If you want to discuss each of these points individually, I will do so.





Oh... don't forget... you can sell your daughters into slavery. You can pick up some extra cash that way.





A little rebuttal:





If The Ten Commandments have been abolished or Jesus nailed them to the cross, then how could?


a perfect God (Matthew 5:48) do away with a perfect Law? Psalms 19:7.





Psalms 19:7 The law of the LORD is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple.





Because this law being referenced is not the law God gave to Israel. That law was not perfect, and converted no one. The N.T. brings out this “law” is God's Spirit, placed in the believer, that converts the soul.





How could a Holy God (Isaiah 6:3) do away with a Holy Law? Romans 7:12.





Because God replaced it with a better law with better promises. That first covenant had a glory, but its glory was fading, and compared to the new covenant, its glory is nothing by comparison. See II Cor. 3.





How could a Righteous God (Psalms 145:17) do away with a Righteous Law? Psalms 119:172.





And the condemnation that came with the law was just. So, you prefer condemnation?








How could God who is unchangeable (Malachi 3:6; Hebrews 13:8) change or do away with a Law that is unchangeable? Matthew 5:17-19; Psalms 111:7-8.





Malachi 3:6 For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.





You obviously didn't bother to read the context, seeing as God, in the law, stated that if Israel broke the covenant, God would consume them. But God didn't. God didn't perform that which he stated in the law, else Israel would have been consumed. The reason God changes not here is not a matter of the law, but a matter of the promises to Abraham and the other patriarchs. So the context supports the exact opposite of what you claim. Do you understand what “context” means? You keep taking passages out of context and assigning the wrong understanding to them. Your citation of Heb. 13:8 is another good example.





Your understanding of Mt. 5:17-19 is also flawed, as you cannot fulfill “law” in regards to the law AND the prophets. There are no laws codified in the prophets. The only thing that has the potential to be fulfilled or destroyed in the law and prophets are prophesies.





Psalms 111:7-8 is still in relation to Israel; the ones who were given that covenant.





Want more expose' on your ignorance?





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Question too long to read. May be good but it is too early in the morning for me to read a sermon. Sorry, maybe later in the morning I will take a look at it.





Matthew 5:17 ';Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to fulfill.
Jesus did what no man could or can. We are under Grace not law and the Bible speaks of this very thing. We are saved by faith not works for Jesus fullfilled the works. If you place your self under one part of the law you will be held to the whole law. Thus my friend I believe you are on dangerius ground and have missed the meaning of Gods words.
You ought to ask one question at the time... A perfect God can stand some improvement, too! God makes the rules as he plays the game! God the father says ';honour thy father and thy mother';.. God the Son Jesus Christ says ';unless you HATE* *Greek=';miseo'; to abhor, hate with all your guts) your father and your mother, et al you cannot be my disciple'; -- It is all a matter of situation ethics, for Christ's sake!
From what I understand..the LAW that was done away with was NOT the TEN COMMANDMENT ...BUT the many laws/ordinances that Moses wrote which give rules, regulations of how to keep the laws. The Ten Commandments were kept in the Arc and the ';Mosasic'; laws were kept in a pouch on the Side of the Arc. These Mosasic laws were the ones done away with..from my understanding.
Oh boy, even as GOD, I got tired and sleepy reading all your questions, how do you expect my poor children to answer them.


Good questions though,but give ME some time and I will confer with my favorite Son and get back to you. Promise.
And the people of the land find that it is more civilize to do what God has commanded after all. I believed that God loved us from the beginning and the reason I think he changed the law was because he was being easy on the people. The people thought that the law was too strict to follow yet it was just to help the people not to harm them.





IN THE NEW TESTAMENTS





HIS COMMANDS WERE TO





He did say LOVE THY NEIGHBOR AS YOU LOVE THY SELF.





Would you Want to be cheated on.





Would you want someone to steal from you





would you want to be killed.





would you want to be lied to





Love thy neighbor as you love thy self





And PUT NO OTHER GODS BEFORE HIM
Congratulations on asking a question nobody will read.
I think you may have forgotten one or two there.
Honestly, it would take a life-time to answer your hundreds of questions.

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