Saturday, January 23, 2010

IF the commandments were nailed to the cross like so many people say and we are no longer under the law, then?

how do you explain this verse in Revelation 22:14 Blessed are those who do the commandments, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city?





If we are no longer under the law and no longer have to keep the commandments then how can we be blessed and have the right to the tree of life?





Or if we do have to keep the commandments, which one do we ';have'; to keep?





Please share your insights and opinions. Provide scripture if you can.IF the commandments were nailed to the cross like so many people say and we are no longer under the law, then?
        Most people have been taught incorrectly on the issue of God's Laws. The devil, of course, is the true source of this deception that God's Laws have in any way ended, been abolished, nailed to the Cross, done away with, or fulfilled. Here is the truth of the matter:





Psalm 89:34 ';My covenant will I not break, nor alter the thing that is gone out of my lips.';





Malachi 3:6 ';For I am the LORD, I change not...';





        Thus, God will not change the rules in the middle of the game. Some claim that the Seventh-day (Saturday) Sabbath commandment wasn't repeated in the New Testament. Or, they claim the Seventh-day Sabbath was just for the Jews. Such people don't have an accurate understanding of God's Word and I, therefore, encourage them to go to their knees and confess to the Holy Spirit that you need more Light and more Truth in your life. Here is that command from Jesus' own lips:





';If ye love me, keep my commandments.'; (John 14:15)


';He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.'; (John 14:21)


';If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.'; (John 15:10)





        Most will say, but He is not talking about the Sabbath commandment -- He is speaking of the Two Great Commandments He gave to replace the Old Testament law. My answer? A resounding, incorrect! Here is what He really said:





';Master, which is the great commandment in the law? Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself. On these two commandments hang all the law [Torah] and the prophets.'; (Matthew 22:36-40)





        (Check your favorite Bible dictionary for the meaning of that word ';law'; which I noted as standing for the entire Torah.) Now, did He say these were the ONLY two commandments? No! And did He say only the Ten Commandments hang on these two commandments? Again, No! He said ';On these two commandments hang *all* the law [Torah] *and* the prophets.'; Meaning, just for starters:





1) If you truly love God, then you will have no other gods before Him.


2) If you truly love God, then you will not make an idol nor worship it.


3) If you truly love God, then you will not take God's name in vain.


4) If you truly love God, then you will worship Him on the Seventh-day Sabbath as God has asked you to.


5) If you truly love God, and your fellow man, then you will honor your Father (and your father and mother) all the days of your life.


6) If you truly love your fellow man, then you will not murder one of them.


7) If you truly love your fellow man, then you will not commit adultery with or against one of them.


8) If you truly love your fellow man, then you will not steal from one of them.


9) If you truly love your fellow man, then you will not lie about one of them.


10) If you truly love your fellow man, then you will not want what your neighbor has.





        Even beyond this, God gave many Statutes in order to more fully explain just what His Ten Commandments mean. He had to do this because we humans will justify any excuse to circumvent God's Holy Law. That is why they are *all* still binding upon all mankind -- because *all* of the law *and* the prophets hang upon the Two Great Commandments Jesus iterated and told us we would keep if we love Him.





        Some further try to claim that Christ's Sacrifice fulfilled *all* of the Old Testament law. If that is true, then why were nine of the Ten Commandments explicitly repeated as being still in force in the New Testament? Also, if that is true, then why were many of God's Statutes also explicitly repeated as carrying the force of eternal death (Rom. 1:16-32; 1Cor. 6:1-10) even in the New Testament -- *after* Christ's Sacrifice was already given? The answer... Because Christ only fulfilled the Sacrificial Law -- not the Ten Commandment Law nor God's Statutes.





        Thus, since *all* of the Law [Torah] has *not* been fulfilled, that means *all* of the Law [Torah] is still binding upon *all* mankind. If you try to insist on anything less, then you have not received the love of the Truth.





2Thes. 2:10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.


2Thes. 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:


2Thes. 2:12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.





God bless.IF the commandments were nailed to the cross like so many people say and we are no longer under the law, then?
I suggest you read all of Galatians very carefully. When reading the Bible, one of the most important things is who is being addressed? When Jesus talks to the woman at the well, who is a Gentile, he speaks directly to Gentiles. And make no mistake, he does differentiate between Gentiles and Jews. That is the whole point of his telling her that it was not yet the time of the Gentiles. Much of the Bible is God talking directly to the Hebrews, the Jews.





If you read the entire Bible, you will find that Jesus did, in fact, give a lot more commands than just the two that he called the most important.





[Aside: It looks like someone with multiple accounts hit this question with their thumbs up and down.]
Jesus said something like, I did not come to abolish the law but to uphold it... something like that.
The ';philosophy';, ';empty deception';, and ';traditions of men'; were the ';decrees'; ';hostile'; to us nailed to the cross, NOT the Torah commandments (Law) of YHVH:





Col 2:8 See to it that no one takes you captive through philosophy and empty deception, according to the tradition of men, according to the elementary principles of the world, rather than according to Christ. ...





Col 2:14 having canceled out the certificate of debt consisting of decrees against us and which was hostile to us; and He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross.








The traditions of the Pharisees were against the people, hostile, made burdensome and binding upon the written Torah for them to observe:





Mat 23:2 Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat:


Mat 23:3 All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not.


Mat 23:4 For they bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne, and lay them on men's shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers.





Mark 7:6 And He said to them, ';Rightly did Isaiah prophesy of you hypocrites, as it is written, 'THIS PEOPLE HONORS ME WITH THEIR LIPS, BUT THEIR HEART IS FAR AWAY FROM ME.


Mark 7:7 'BUT IN VAIN DO THEY WORSHIP ME, TEACHING AS DOCTRINES THE PRECEPTS OF MEN.'


Mark 7:8 ';Neglecting the commandment of God, you hold to the tradition of men.';


Mark 7:9 He was also saying to them, ';You nicely set aside the commandment of God in order to keep your tradition.





They did not keep the Torah given through Moses, the servant of YHVH:





John 7:19 ';Did not Moses give you the Law, and yet none of you carries out the Law? Why do you seek to kill Me?';








God said the commandments of His Law are not too difficult to keep:





Deu 30:11 ';For this commandment which I command you today is not too difficult for you, nor is it out of reach.








The commandments of the Torah are NOT ';hostile'; toward us:





Psa 119:165 Those who love Thy law have great peace, And nothing causes them to stumble.





Isa 42:21 The LORD was pleased for His righteousness' sake To make the law great and glorious.





Psa 119:142 Thy righteousness is an everlasting righteousness, And Thy law is truth.





1 Ki 2:3 ';And keep the charge of the LORD your God, to walk in His ways, to keep His statutes, His commandments, His ordinances, and His testimonies, according to what is written in the law of Moses, that you may succeed in all that you do and wherever you turn,








Even as ';strangers'; we are to ';hear, learn, fear YHVH, and observe'; the commandments of His Torah Law with all our heart and strength. Keeping them the best we can during our lifetime into His Kingdom and Temple to be restored through the Messiah:





Deu 31:12 Gather the people together, men, and women, and children, and thy stranger that is within thy gates, that they may hear, and that they may learn, and fear the LORD your God, and observe to do all the words of this law:





John 14:15 ';If you love Me, you will keep My commandments.
I personally believe that the Mosaic laws were the ones nailed to the cross...not the 10 Commandments. For example: it makes sense that you wouldn't need to provide sacrifices anymore





As for the 10 Commandments...that's a law God wrote Himself...but maybe this illustration might shed some light.





All of God's laws are written in the minimum. Look at the physical laws. A stop is as slow as something can go, but how fast can not be measured. In temperature, there's absolute zero...there's no ceiling. And you can take almost every physical law the same way.





Same with the 10 commandments...there's no limit on how much we can love God or each other. But the minimum is to not kill, steal, covet, or commit adultery.
I have to say, I have never heard the term regarding the Commandments being nailed to the Cross used in the way that you may be interpreting. The Commandments, in the case of that saying, are Jesus Himself. The Commandments being God's Covenant with the Jews, and Jesus being the New Covenant. There should be nothing there that indicates we no longer need to follow the Commandments, and anyone who says so is misunderstanding the nature of Jesus Christ. Jesus repeated the Commandments, and even elaborated, if you will, on them in the Sermon on the Mount (Matthew 5-7). He even stated, in Matthew 5:17 ';Do not think that I have come to abolish the law or the prophets; I have come not to abolish, but to fulfill.';





Those who would say the Commandments are no longer applicable, are simply wrong. But I am not so sure that is what most of them are saying.
the commandments jesus gave in the new testament not the law.





Jesus stated many commands in the new testament that changed or altered old testament laws.





Love thy neighbor vengeance is mine says the lord.





there are many commands through the epistles paul wrote we are to obey as well. Commands which christians are to follow.





The law convicts us of Sin it does not free us of Sin.


Only salvation in Jesus saves us from Sin.





You changed the verse in revelations


it says his, jesus, commandments not the old testament law of commandments.








Jesus taught and did many things that changed old testament laws.


He honored the sabbath but it was done as rest for man not as the legal laws the jews added to what work was on the sabbath.
The below Scripture tells every thing you need to know.








Mark 12:28  ¶And one of the scribes came, and having heard them reasoning together, and perceiving that he had answered them well, asked him, Which is the first commandment of all?


29  And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:


30  And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment.


31  And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.
We are still under the law of the ten commandments and all are to be obeyed. We now have the opportunity to receive grace in order to facilitate us to be able to obey them it is a matter of the heart. I assure you that if you obey the first commandment all the rest are easier to obey
This was Jesus' answer to your question....in this passage he is speaking to the legalist of HIS day.....





Matt 22:





34 But when the Pharisees heard that He had silenced the Sadducees, they gathered together.


35 Then one of them, a lawyer, asked Him a question, testing Him, and saying,


36 “Teacher, which is the great commandment in the law?”


37 Jesus said to him, “ ‘You shall love the LORD your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind.’[c]


38 This is the first and great commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’[d]


40 On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets.”





NOTE....verse 40. Jesus , himself said this.....





There are over 630 commandments in the OT that the Jews were to keep, not just the 10.





Legalists want that you should keep the 10...





Jesus said TWO were the most important....keep them, you keep all the others....
When the rich young man asked Jesus what he must do to be saved, the first thing Jesus told him was ';obey the Commandments';. Christians are not under the tenets of the Mosaic Law, but the 10 Commandments are universal. They apply to everyone.
Re-read the New Testament: Jesus gave commandments as well.
The New Testament repeats the commandments of the Old Testament, with the exception of those ceremonial laws, whose specific purpose was to make Israel separate from the nations (Gentiles), so that the light of the world (Jesus) could come through them





Here's an example of where Jesus himself repeated some of the commandments.





';Matthew 19:16-19 And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?


17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? [there is] none good but one, [that is], God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.


18 He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness,


19 Honour thy father and [thy] mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.';








There are over 1,000 commandments in the NT, so I can't give you the scripture here, but I'll link a page that does outline them.





Edit: I'm amazed to see that there are so many people who don't know that the NT has any commandments in it.

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