Saturday, January 23, 2010

Why was Jesus nailed to a cross?

Some people say it was for our sins, but for some reason I don't remember walking around the Mediterranean telling people I was the King of the Jews and that no one could get to heaven if they didn't do what I told them to. If I remember right, the bible says that it was Jesus who did those things, not me or you. Back then making such statements was considered to be blaspheme, a sin in and of itself. So, did Jesus really die for my sins, or did he die because of his own?Why was Jesus nailed to a cross?
If he was real he was just a ancient day David Koresh. If Jesus came today only a few would follow him and the rest would say that they were crazy, and made their religion look bad. If they could they would nail him up again.





Special kind of psychosis!Why was Jesus nailed to a cross?
Jesus died because he irritated the hell out of the Romans. Simple as that.
You are asking a very valid question, since Jesus himself spoke as though the crucifixion was NOT good news for mankind. My source is below.





As to why he was killed...he gave the reason himself...





He came to bring light to the world, and those who want to keep everything hidden do not want the light... so they do their best to extinguish the light...





and they did so.
because nailing him to a giant rubber chicken just didn't have the same effect....
Is it a sin if He was? Was it blaspheme if He was? No- and because He WAS and IS God, he died sinLESS at the hand of those who didnt believe who He was.





So to answer your questions...yes...He died for THEIR unbelief...and for YOURS...for all our sin against Him in deed and thought, because our sin (whatever it is) is really sin against HIM.
he went out on a bucks night, got totaled and he's mates said,'; hey let's nail the prick to the cross';, so Mary can't get her wish.And that's where they left him.
I admire your efforts, but getting a Fundie to say anything in response to this that is outside of the dogma they regurgitate is dang near impossible. They think god will come down and spank them and send them to hell without their supper.





nice try though





Ciao,


Lady Morgana )0(
They ran out of duct tape.
That was the style back then...no electric chair....and it sent a message to his followers.





He died to give us hope, he didnt want to but he knew it was the only way...they would win if he ran...





There is book called The Robe, cant remember who wrote it but its really good and its about the Roman soldier who won Jesus robe in a bet after he was crucified.
they didn't have enough firewood to burn him at the stake....
velcro was not invented yet
He fullfilled prophecies of the Old Testament that stated, ';For dogs have compassed me: the assembly of the wicked have inclosed me: they pierced my hands and my feet.';
Sheesh- gonna have to start at the very very beginning- There are principles of nature- like gravity and mass/energy conservation that cannot be changed.





There are principals of God- like justice and mercy that cannot be changed.





Justice is the principle that all sin/crime must be paid for.


Mercy is that not all who act against God's will do it willfully.


Righteousness- There are some things that are intrinsically right, some that are intrinsically wrong. That which is wrong, or a person who has done something wrong cannot enter into God's presence.








This is a story that was developed by a great man I know. It illustrates the need for a savior.





There once was a man who wanted something very much. It seemed more important than anything else in his life. In order for him to have his desire, he incurred a great debt.





He had been warned about going into that much debt, and particularly about his creditor. But it seemed so important for him to do what he wanted to do and to have what he wanted right now. He was sure he could pay for it later.





So he signed a contract. He would pay it off some time along the way. He didn’t worry too much about it, for the due date seemed such a long time away. He had what he wanted now, and that was what seemed important.





The creditor was always somewhere in the back of his mind, and he made token payments now and again, thinking somehow that the day of reckoning really would never come.





But as it always does, the day came, and the contract fell due. The debt had not been fully paid. His creditor appeared and demanded payment in full.





Only then did he realize that his creditor not only had the power to repossess all that he owned, but the power to cast him into prison as well.





‘I cannot pay you, for I have not the power to do so,’ he confessed.





‘Then,’ said the creditor, ‘we will exercise the contract, take your possessions, and you shall go to prison. You agreed to that. It was your choice. You signed the contract, and now it must be enforced.’





‘Can you not extend the time or forgive the debt?’ the debtor begged. ‘Arrange some way for me to keep what I have and not go to prison. Surely you believe in mercy? Will you not show mercy?’





The creditor replied, ‘Mercy is always so one-sided. It would serve only you. If I show mercy to you, it will leave me unpaid. It is justice I demand. Do you believe in justice?’





‘I believed in justice when I signed the contract,’ the debtor said. ‘It was on my side then, for I thought it would protect me. I did not need mercy then, nor think I should need it ever. Justice, I thought, would serve both of us equally as well.’





‘It is justice that demands that you pay the contract or suffer the penalty,’ the creditor replied. ‘That is the law. You have agreed to it and that is the way it must be. Mercy cannot rob justice.’





There they were: One meting out justice, the other pleading for mercy. Neither could prevail except at the expense of the other.





‘If you do not forgive the debt there will be no mercy,’ the debtor pleaded.





‘If I do, there will be no justice,’ was the reply.





Both laws, it seemed, could not be served. They are two eternal ideals that appear to contradict one another. Is there no way for justice to be fully served, and mercy also?





There is a way! The law of justice can be fully satisfied and mercy can be fully extended—but it takes someone else. And so it happened this time.





The debtor had a friend. He came to help. He knew the debtor well. He knew him to be shortsighted. He thought him foolish to have gotten himself into such a predicament. Nevertheless, he wanted to help because he loved him. He stepped between them, faced the creditor, and made this offer.





‘I will pay the debt if you will free the debtor from his contract so that he may keep his possessions and not go to prison.’





As the creditor was pondering the offer, the mediator added, ‘You demanded justice. Though he cannot pay you, I will do so. You will have been justly dealt with and can ask no more. It would not be just.’





And so the creditor agreed.





The mediator turned then to the debtor. ‘If I pay your debt, will you accept me as your creditor?’





‘Oh yes, yes,’ cried the debtor. ‘You save me from prison and show mercy to me.’





‘Then,’ said the benefactor, ‘you will pay the debt to me and I will set the terms. It will not be easy, but it will be possible. I will provide a way. You need not go to prison.’





And so it was that the creditor was paid in full. He had been justly dealt with. No contract had been broken.





The debtor, in turn, had been extended mercy. Both laws stood fulfilled. Because there was a mediator, justice had claimed its full share, and mercy was fully satisfied”














The man who got into debt is each one of us- we become in debt each time we act contrary to the commands of God.





The creditor is the Law of Justice- recompense for each sin commited MUST be made.





You and I don't have the resources to pay the debt in full. Our friend, Jesus is able to make payment. What He asks of us isn't easy, but it is possible. He fills the gap between our pathetic attempts to pay and the actual requirements of justice.








I know that non-believers, this is hard to swallow, but it's what Christians believe.
He died by his own choice to bad he wasn't alive today instead of back then. I think in today's world he would have just been ignored or possibly given change.
they tried to taser him and he kept saying 'Don't do it, bro' but they went right ahead and did. then they placed him on a big post-it note and stuck him on the cross. at least, that's how I would imagine it went down.





in my onion, i think he died for his own issues. but he was a hero to many people... like mel gibson in braveheart, he probably yelled 'salvation' as he died (although mel yelled 'freedom').





the take home message is that he died and he was probably a righteous man that stood up for what he believes in. that kinda stuff never happens nowadays, or does it??
Jesus Christ the Lord died on the cross for ALL our sins. Everyone's. mine. yours. the person who is reading my answer. EVERYONE. and, nothing can change that.
he chose to die for your sins. so He give them a reason to nail him to the cross.
Jesus was God in the flesh. He was free from sin. He could have never sinned even if He tried. He died so that me and you could have eternal life and inherit God's kingdom.

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