Thursday, January 21, 2010

Was Jesus nailed to a cross or a tree?

The gospels says cross bt then you read further an Paul says tree! So which is it ?Was Jesus nailed to a cross or a tree?
Jesus was nailed to a cross made out of a tree.Was Jesus nailed to a cross or a tree?
He would have been nailed to a ';wooden stake'; which was the common practice at that time. There is NO mention in the bible of Jesus nailed to a ';crucifix';. Actually, there is NO real evidence Jesus ever existed anyway outside the bible. ALL so called writing proofs (Josephus etc.) have been proven pious frauds or were not even written during the time of Jesus. The idea of the ';cross'; or ';t'; more likely came from Pagan beliefs which used a ';t'; which was the symbol of the Pagan god, and the cross was a symbol of Paganism long before Christianity.
A cross. The term ';tree'; is used occasionally , but that's because the cross was made from a tree.





That was the normal mode of execution carried out by the Romans in those days.
I dont think that is the point of the scriptures. The point is he DIED and 3 days later ROSE AGAIN.
cross made of wood?


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Stauros - torture stake. They were usually trees cut down in order to put the person on them and then raised back up, slammed into a deep hole and watched to make sure it didn't fall over. I would say it was a tree, hands together above the head, nails thru the wrist, in order to pull themselves up to catch their breath. Most crucifixions died due to suffocation... not the wounds inflicted on them from the nails. They also lasted a few days... not just half a day.
cross made from a tree
A cross which was made out of a tree...
Cross, made out of a tree.
As someone else stated, the shape of the instrument of the murder of Jesus is not what is important, but the fact of the event is.





Most people do not realize that the Greek word which in most Bibles rendered as ';cross'; is stauros, which literally should be translated as stake, post, or pale (as in ';impale';).





However, many who profess Christianity have an almost worshipful attitude toward the cross, even if they do not actually worship it. Can this not be considered a form of idolatry?





It is recorded in Numbers 21:9 how, when many of the Israelites were bitten by poisonous snakes, Moses made a copper snake on a pole, and when people looked at it they were healed.





That was a ';type'; of our exercising faith in the ransom sacrifice of Jesus. Interestingly, however, later that copper snake had to be destroyed because people had begun to worship it. (2-Kings 18:4)





People are treating the ';cross'; the same way in our time.
Just like '; Chicken of the sea'; means Tuna, Jesus on a Wooden cross is the same as him on a ';Tree'; because wood comes from trees.
Is this one of the ';inconsistancies'; people are always nagging about?! If it is, a cross was made from wood, and wood comes from trees, so there's no confusion here.
The Greek word rendered ';cross'; in many modern Bible versions(';torture stake';in NW)is stau ros'.In classical Greek,this word meant merely an upright stake or pale.The Imperial Bible-Dictonary acknowledges this,saying';The Greek word for cross,[stau ros'],properly signified a stake,an upright pole,or piece of paling,on which anything might be hung,or which might be used in impaling[fencing in] a piece of ground.......Even amongst the Romans the crux (From which our cross is dervived) appears to have been originally an upright pole';-Edited by P.Fairbaim(London 1874),Vol 1,p.376.


The problem lies with Christendom adopting many pagan beliefs and fusing them in with apostate Christanity.


The 'T'; cross is a pagan symbol whose origins stem back from pagan worship of a god called 'Tau'
cross
A cross made from a tree.
A cross made from a tree
the cross was made from a tree
It was all wood, which comes from a tree, just made in the shape of a cross. Tree, Cross, wood, doesn't matter. What took place there and how it's relates to our lives are what's important.
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