Wednesday, January 13, 2010

When Jesus forgave the Roman soldiers who mocked him, spit on him, and nailed him to the cross?

';Forgive them Father they know not what they do';





Were they forgiven the moment Jesus uttered those words or did they have to say the ';sinners prayer'; and accept Jesus as their personal lord and savior?When Jesus forgave the Roman soldiers who mocked him, spit on him, and nailed him to the cross?
There is not one single mention of Jesus in the entire Roman record - that is right - not one!!! At the same time as he was supposed to have been around there were a number of Jews claiming to be the messiah - all of whom are well recorded!!





He was supposed to have been a huge problem to the Romans and produced wonderful miracles but still not one contemporary record?





Even the bible mentions of him like all other references were not written until many years after his supposed death!!





Pilot is recorded in the Roman record as a somewhat lack luster man but no mention of a Jesus, a trial or crucifixion that would surely have been used to make him look brighter!!





At best he was an amalgam of those others!!When Jesus forgave the Roman soldiers who mocked him, spit on him, and nailed him to the cross?
Dear Friend,





Jesus says in Luke 23:34 ';Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do. And they parted his raiment, and cast lots.';





This plea for mercy which Jesus cried out to the Father has nothing to do with their Salvation. This was a plea to the Father not to show His wrath upon these men. In the soul of Jesus there was no resentment; no anger, no lurking desire for punishment upon them.





I have never seen anywhere in Scripture, ';The sinners prayer.'; If it isn't in the Word of God, then man has ';added'; it. Dangerous!





Revelation is very clear about man adding or taking away from His Word. It's like someone putting words in your mouth, when you never said such a thing.





Revelation 22:18, 19 says, ';For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:


19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.';
When you forgive a person doesn't change that person, it changes you.It opens the door to the blessing of God.If Jesus had gone into hell with unforgiveness in his heart, he never would have been raised from the dead.That is why God demands you to forgive all who have done you wrong.Because that frees you up to walk in faith and the love walk.Because unforgiveness is like a canker, it eats away at your soul.


All those who he forgave had to accept Jesus as Lord over their sin to get rid of the sin nature.Just as men have to do today. God never changes.
I don't think that because Jesus said ';forgive them'; they were absolved of all their sins. I think they were probably just forgiven for doing that right then. I don't think that meant they went to heaven when they died.


However, I can't be Positive. I'm no theologian.
Rev.1:7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.
They, like everyone else, had to believe that Christ is the Savior of the world.





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Just because he for gave then doesnt mean they accepted christ. That come Only from one's own heart.
Well.. considering the soldier turned around and said ';Truly, this Man is the Son of God'; I guess that is when he got saved.
It would stand to reason Jesus forgave at that moment. I doubt they accepted him as lord and savior though
ummm... they turned round and laughed

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