Which of the 10 Commandments did Jesus do away with?
Which one do we no longer have to obey?
Can we have other God's, bow down and worship graven images, or take Gods name in vain?
Do we no longer have to Keep the Sabbath?
Can we murder, lie and steal?
Do ALL 10 still apply or can we pick and choose?
Do the first 4 reveal HOW we love God and the last 6 reveal HOW we love our neighbor?
Do you obey the 4th Commandment and Keep the Sabbath?
The Sabbath of scripture - Friday sundown through Saturday Sundown.Professing Christians - Which of the 10 Commandments did Jesus ';nail to the cross';?
There are ceremonial laws and moral laws. Moral laws are still intact.
Jesus did not come to take away the law, He came to fulfill itProfessing Christians - Which of the 10 Commandments did Jesus ';nail to the cross';?
Man you are desperate to try to make a point. I think its about the sabbath. Get it through your head that it was only a covenant sign between God and the Israelites and no other group.
Why do you and the other so called Christians who think like you want to argue with and attack other Christians? Those other Christians you guys attack all the time are much nicer and more noble than you guys.
Is there any question you ever have wanted to ask here besides lame questions about the sabbath that God commanded for the Jews and the Jews only?
Get a life......
1. None - not one!
2. We obey them all (we should).
3. No.
4. We still keep Saturday - don't let men change God's laws !
5. No, no, and no.
6. All apply - no picking or choosing.
7. Yes, yes.
8. YES.
9. Yes The edges are just as important as the middle - if not more!
He nailed sin to the cross.All of them. If any man esteems anything to be sin, then to him it is sin. From Christ on, whatsoever is not of faith is sin. The Commandments are a prophesy.Thou shall love God. You just do. He can't command you to love him.
No Ten Commandments were nailed to the Cross.
On the Cross was a Plank
In Hebrew Greek and Armaic ( languages spokens See Link)
Stating King of the Jews.
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We should obey all Teachings of the Scriptures.
10 Commandments ( NOT NAILED TO THE CROSS )
Yes we are to Keep the Commandments
We all Fall Short of the Glory of God.
The 613 Mitzvots.
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. ( Lords Day too ) First day of the Week Too in NT
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Paul points out that the Old Covenant came to an end and was replaced by the New Covenant. The Ten Commandments are the Old Covenant.
Exodus 34:28
Deuteronomy 4:13
None of them. =)
Nice try Tiggy...Truth Quest isn't SDA...but I am. Wanna take this outside?
ALL None are done away with ALL are fulfilled through atonement.
It is through the atonement you are by faith made new.
If you are dead and resurrected with Christ..why would you think you need a law to tell you right from wrong? The law is not dead nor done away with. he law was not to make you righteous...if it were it failed. All were found guilty under the law and this is the Gospel the atonement and resurrection of Jesus Christ,,that through his atonement and resurrection you can now be righteously joined to God which is eternal life.
Because God is righteous he is not joined to sin..it is God who Created and sustains our life...this is why Adam received the warning.'; In the day you eat of it you will surely die'; Man sinned and inherited death.
Jesus came to overcome temptation, sin and death as a man under the law..Now you can by faith be made new and joined to God through the righteousness and atonement and resurrection of Jesus Christ.
God explained this thousands of years before The Son became flesh Lord Jesus.
Jere. 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the Lord, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
The Sabbath is more than Mosaic Law and more than one day of each week.
The literal law is fulfilled by Jesus.
It through his atonement we are by faith made new through his righteousness.
No longer under the law but new creatures.
These laws are the shadows of the coming of Christ,
Clean and unclean and Sabbaths and sacrifces.
Col.2: 16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.
Romans 6:11 Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Our Lord Jesus Christ brought to us this day of salvation and it is through him we are by faith made new and do enter his rest.
I say by faith because we are not yet literally born again and this literal day has not yet come.
The day of the lord will come with the return of Jesus who will rule the world for one thousand years.
Why did Christ curse the fig tree? Are we to bear fruit in season and out of season or do we simply follow the law?
Friends if you are made new you are not under the law but freed from the law and you will bear fruit in season and out of season not because the law says so but because you are made NEW.
The Jews followed the law because they thought it was good to make them righteous they missed the spiritual meaning behind the law. The law makes no one righteous not one.
God is all knowing and foreknew man could not uphold his law...We failed. God did not give us the law to make us righteous. He gave us the law to know our sin and to see our need for a Savior. It is through Christ we can be made new through his righteousness not our own.
The law condemns us to death and Jesus brings us the resurrection.
There are wonderful truths and spiritual meanings behind the law. The law is God's righteousness not man's. It is important that we understand the meaning of the law and the meaning of the Sabbath and the sacrifices and the clean and unclean laws that represent our salvation through Jesus Christ.
Not one iota of Torah was nailed to the cross. If it were then Messiah Y'shua is a liar and we have no Savior. What was nailed to the cross is the document detialing a converted person's transgressions, the bill of indictment so to speak, that makes us worthy of the death penalty.
Matthew 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. 18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. 19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
1.) Heaven and Earth has not passed away, so the smallest particle in the Law is still in force for Christians.
2.) If you want to be well thought of in the Kingdom of God, teach and do Torah.
How is the True Church of God identified?
Revelation12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ....14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus...22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
What does Paul really say about the Law?
Ro 7:12 Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.
Ro 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.
Ro 6:2 God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?
Ro 6:15 What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid.
Ro 7:7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
chrsitans make themselves happy by accepting that no matter what we do, Jesus has paid for it and we are free.....they acccept this because this gives them the liberty to do every bad thing freely.they can do whatever they like, lie, cheat , steal, rape, murder, kill etc.....there is nothing wrong or right in christianity, because the consequence will be the same, there is no punishment for doing wrong in christianity.....
Jesus has clearly said that following the commandments is a real way to salvation, but today, the christians have rejected everything because of accepting that Jesus died for their wrongdoings.
Matthew 5:17-20
V17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
V18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
V19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
V20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.
Bible has clearly said that in order to enter Heaven, you have to keep the commandments...here Jesus hasn't said accept that I will be crucified on the cross and you will enter heaven....yet if a christian say that no! Jesus has paid for our wrongdoings, then it would just mean that Jesus lied in Mathew 5:17-20 by saying that you will enter heaven only if you keep the commandments ....
Edit:
and yet if you beleive Jesus said that he has been crucified for your deeds and you will enter heaven if you beleive in Atonment, then it will simply means that Jesus destroyed the law and lied when he said i have come not here to destroy the law but to fulfil it....
bottomline: according to Jesus, for salvation, you have to follow the commandments, not the crucifixion or the Atonment.....
Col 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
It is commonly assumed that the ';handwriting of ordinances'; is the Old Testament law. The term handwriting is from the Greek cheirographon, which generally refers to a legal document or bond, and is used of a ';record book of sins'; in Jewish apocalyptic literature.
The King James Version's ';handwriting of ordinances'; is an unfortunate translation. Modern English versions are better, and generally do not leave the impression that Paul is speaking of Old Testament laws. Notice how Colossians 2:13b,14 is rendered in the following modern English versions:
The New Revised Standard Version: ';when he forgave us all our trespasses, erasing the record that stood against us with its legal demands. He set this aside, nailing it to the cross.';
The New American Standard Bible: ';having forgiven us all our transgressions, having canceled out the certificate of debt consisting of decrees against us and which was hostile to us; and He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross.';
The New American Bible: ';having forgiven us all our transgressions; obliterating the bond against us, with its legal claims, which was opposed to us, he also removed it from our midst, nailing it to the cross.';
The ';record,'; ';certificate of debt,'; or ';bond'; that was against us was not the Old Testament law; it was the record of our sins. When God forgives our sins, he erases the record completely.
In verse 16, Paul mentions the Sabbaths and festivals, but he does not chastise the Colossians for keeping them. He simply admonishes them to allow no one to judge them in matters regarding eating and drinking or Sabbath or festival observance. This suggests that the Colossians were observing holy days, and someone was judging them for it.
While many cite Colossians 2:16 as ';proof'; that the holy days were ';done away,'; at least a few evangelical scholars point out that the passage suggests that the Colossians were observing the holy days.
One such scholar is Douglas R. De Lacey, Ph.D., of the University of Cambridge (Cambridge, England). De Lacey says, ';The 'judgment' seems to be criticism of the Christians' present practice, apparently of eating and drinking and enjoying Jewish festivals, in contrast to those whose watchword was 'do not handle, do not taste, do not even touch' (Col. 2:21)'; (Dictionary of Paul and His Letters, InterVarsity Press, 1993).
The troublemakers were philosophers who claimed that one could obtain a higher level of spirituality or righteousness by practicing asceticism (';Touch not; taste not; handle not';verse 21). Paul says the philosophers' regulations are nothing more than the ';commandments and doctrines of men'; (verse 22).
Given the nature of the problem, it is doubtful that the philosophers were judging the Colossians for keeping or not keeping Sabbaths and festivals. More likely, their judgment was based on how the Colossians kept the holy days. It seems that the joy, laughter, and pleasure of eating and drinkingall of which were abundant on holy dayswere not in agreement with the philosophers' ascetic views.
By attaching man-made regulations to Christian fellowship and holy day observance, the philosophers were missing the purpose of the holy days. Holy days are not an end in themselves; they are a means to an end. As Paul says, they are a ';shadow of things to come,'; but Christ is the ';body'; that casts the shadow. Without the body (or ';substance';), the shadow is worth little. With the body, however, the shadow serves as a means of enhancing worship and increasing understanding and appreciation of Christ's redemptive work and God's plan for mankind.
Ask Paul, he's the one who decided to change the rules.
hmm i'm smelling SDAs! LOL The 10 commandments were written so that we know and are convicted of our sins. They also show us that we have a need for a Savior. But we are no longer held to the Law, because we have been justified by Christ. This doesn't mean to ignore the law, it just means that we are saved from the law. Paul writes,
Acts 20:7 On the first day of the week we came together to break bread. Paul spoke to the people and, because he intended to leave the next day, kept on talking until midnight.
Colossians 2:16-17: Paul writes: ';...do no let anyone judge you...with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day. These are a shadow of the things that were to come; the reality, however, is found in Christ.
Verses on the law!
1 Timothy 1:9
We also know that law[a] is made not for the righteous but for lawbreakers and rebels, the ungodly and sinful, the unholy and irreligious; for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers,
Romans 6:14-15: For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace. What then: shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace: God forbid.
And what Christian wants to lie and cheat, and murder. When your a real Christian you want to love Christ and be like him, to the best of your ability!
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